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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #90 on: Monday 30 August 10 09:54 BST (UK) »
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M'Millan    (1)

I'd love more details on this entry in the list if the offer's still open.

Thanks,
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Ann

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #91 on: Monday 30 August 10 10:16 BST (UK) »
Morning Ann, and yes the offer is still open. Unfortunately the entry that I have for M'Millan reads,

Prisoner 2350 Archibald M'Millan. Not Known.

The "not known" relates to what became of him. Sorry that it is not much help to you.

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #92 on: Monday 30 August 10 10:45 BST (UK) »
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Sorry that it is not much help to you.

Morning!  ;D

No problem, not come across any Archibald's so far anyway,

Thanks for taking the time to look,

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #93 on: Thursday 02 September 10 23:59 BST (UK) »
hi:) my name is Kayleigh :) im from the bahamas :)

i think my name is actually a form of a Gaelic name.. not positive. if anyone know about that i would like to know :)

but recently my grandfather passed away and at the funeral i met family i didnt even know existed!
So that (and reading some good books about scotland.. cant wait to visit one of these days...) made me start thinking about my family.

i have always been interested in old things.. i collect old bottles and things like that..  and so..

 i was looking up my grandmother's maiden name and it is MacDonald.
my grandfather's name is Sands and my other grandmother's name is Roberts which my mom found out recently is suposed to be a viking descendant or something. so i dont know but im really intersted.

and i saw the list of jacobite names and was wondering if you could tell me the names of the mac donald men :) and any others you might think im related to :P

i would really apreciate any feedback :) thank you!


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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #94 on: Friday 03 September 10 00:34 BST (UK) »
Hiya Kayleigh, and welcome to Rootschat, there are many knowledgable and helpful people here, I am sure you'll make progress!

Looking at the list of boards I do not see one specifically for introductions, though there is one for "beginners" and possibly there should be such a thread there,... you'd catch a wider number of viewers than those just interested in Jacobites.

"Ceilidh" is pronounced same as your name, it means a party, always with lots of singing and dancing.

Your interest in old things is great, collecting and looking at bottles and such from centuries past helps you to learn the context of your ancestors lifes, not just who they were, but what thay ate, what that worked at, what the general interests of the society your greats came from. A good start for your studies.

With genealogy most advise you do not start with an ancient supposed ancestor and try to prove your descent, but rather start with the details you know of yourself, then work backwards; try to find where your granny MacDonald was born, married, died, her parents, and back. If you do have a strong family story of being descended from Jacobites certainly do try to follow descen of the exiled MacDonalds, though keeping in mind your jacobite ancestor may have been a MacLeod or some else, and the story carried down through a granddaughter who married a MacDonald.

In general, MacDonalds were clustered in the south west highlands and islands, though over the centuries they were becoming scattered around the country.

Also in your searches remember that standardized spelling is relatively recent; your ancestors may show up as "MacDonald", "McDonald", Macdonnell, or dozens of variations.

Best of luck in your wee voyage of discovery!

Donald.
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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #95 on: Friday 03 September 10 00:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Kayleigh and welcome to Rootschat and the Scotland board.

There are some 28 M'Donald's listed and the number before their names relate to their prison numbers when they where in Tilbury Fort in Essex.

1804 Alexander M'Donald Transported
1805 Alexander M'Donald Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1806 Alexander M'Donald Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1807 Alexander M'Donald Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1808 Alexander M'Donald Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1932 Archibald   M'Donald Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1833 Archibald   M'Donald Transported 20th 3rd 1747
1853 Donald      M'Donald Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1860 Duncan     M'Donald Discharged
1862 Duncan     M'Donald Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1863 Duncan     M'Donald Not Known
1864 Ewwn       M'Donald Transported
1880 James       M'Donald Transported 20th 3rd 1747
1902 John         M'Donald  Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1903 John         M'Donald  Died June 1746 at Tibury Fort
1904 John         M'Donald  Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1905 John         M'Donald  Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1906 John         M'Donald  Transported 20th 3rd 1747
1907 John         M'Donald  Transported 20th 3rd 1747
1910 John         M'Donald  Transported 20th 3rd 1747
1924 Owen       M'Donald  Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1928 Ranald      M'Donald  Liberated       4th 7th 1747
1931 Ranald      M'Donald  Ordered to be transported
                                          but still in Tilbury Fort in the
                                          April of 1747 and may have been
                                          Discharged
1932 Ranald     M'Donald   Released under General Pardon
                                          1747
1941 Sween     M'Donald   Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1943 William     M'Donald   Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1944 William     M'Donald   Transported 31st 3rd 1747
1945 William     M'Donald   Transported 31st 3rd 1747


Although the above are M'Donald's there is no saying that they will be related to your family. If you are just starting out on your research I would suggest that you place a posting on the beginers board here on Rootschat asking for pointers on how to go about starting. Myself I would start with your own immediate family and work backwards. From there I would then start on your parents and their siblings (if there are any) and also their own parents. You already have some information with the fact that you know that your grandmother was a MacDonald if you know where she was born that would be a bonus and by obtaining her birth certificate it will give you her parents names as well as her mothers maiden name and from there you could take another step back by searching out their marriage certificate. Before you do this try and collate as much information that you can from members of your family as you never know someone may have already started doing some research. Oh and one other thing make sure you note down your source matter as you may need it in future.
Best of luck in your research.
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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #96 on: Wednesday 20 October 10 21:01 BST (UK) »
This is my first posting!  I am trying to trace a relative of mine, Neil MacLeod, who was imprisoned on the Pamela at Tilbury and then transported.  I I notice that there are different dates attributed to the ship, 'Frere' when it sailed to Barbados carrying Jacobite prisoners.  One date is 20 March and the other 31 March 1747.  Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
Thanks
Jan

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #97 on: Wednesday 03 November 10 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Hello - I would be very interested in more details, if you have them, of the Robert Reid who appears to have been executed.

I think this is the Rebel Officer Reid, a merchant and son of Sir Alexander (III)Reid of Barra. If so he is a relative.

There are many others on the lists that will connect to my family - the MacKenzies, MacIvers etc.
Interestingly one earlier poster mentioned an Evander MacIvor - I have a much later Evander MacIver - the factor to the Earl of Sutherland - I wonder if there might be a connection. His mother was a Mackenzie.

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Re: Jacobite prisoners from 1745
« Reply #98 on: Friday 19 November 10 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi could I have information about the three Sutherlands in the list? Thanks in advance. :)
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Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

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Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon