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Re: St Pancras 1825 Marriage - Details ??
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 January 08 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Just checked London Marriage Lic. 1521-1869 and no sign of your rellies I am afraid.  I also have the parish records on CD which are supposed to be of St.Pancras.  No sign there either.  My rellies were married there in the 1780's but I think there must be two St.Pancras.  My rellies were married in Old Church St. Pancras and the records I have are of St. Pancras, Soper Lane.  Sorry I could be of more help.  Sue
Webb - Wiltshire/Kent
Harris/Prince - Wiltshire
Taylor - Islington/Essex
Bull - Shoreditch/ Essex
Anderson - Ireland/Buckinghamshire
Gauron - London/France

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Re: St Pancras 1825 Marriage - Details ??
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 January 08 10:48 GMT (UK) »
I think there must be two St.Pancras.  My rellies were married in Old Church St. Pancras and the records I have are of St. Pancras, Soper Lane. 

These are indeed completely separate parishes in different parts of London: St Pancras Soper Lane was in the City of London, badly damaged in the Great Fire of 1666 and never rebuilt.  Other than the dedication to St Pancras it had no connection with St Pancras Old Church and its surrounding area, including the civil parish/registration district of St Pancras.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: St Pancras 1825 Marriage - Details ??
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 January 08 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Anna but where is St. Pancras Old Church situated please?
Webb - Wiltshire/Kent
Harris/Prince - Wiltshire
Taylor - Islington/Essex
Bull - Shoreditch/ Essex
Anderson - Ireland/Buckinghamshire
Gauron - London/France

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 January 08 11:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Anna but where is St. Pancras Old Church situated please?

It's in grounds off Pancras Road, between St Pancras International Station and King's Cross Station.

The civil parish named after it was truly huge and stretched all the way up to Highgate.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: St Pancras 1825 Marriage - Details ??
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 January 08 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Anna.  I'm learning.......
Webb - Wiltshire/Kent
Harris/Prince - Wiltshire
Taylor - Islington/Essex
Bull - Shoreditch/ Essex
Anderson - Ireland/Buckinghamshire
Gauron - London/France

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Re: St Pancras 1825 Marriage - Details ??
« Reply #14 on: Monday 28 January 08 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Anna and Sue
I'm sure the IGI said the marriage took place at the Old Church St Pancras.   Handy to know where, just in case I ever get back to London (not likely unless a money tree starts growing down the backyard lol).  Sue, It was just too bad that the CD you have has St Pancras Soper Lane and not the Old Church. 

I guess I'm just not destined to find out any more.    Although I will try and get a look at the IGI film/fiche sometime.   Maybe I'll get lucky! 

The thing is, I am after a son of theirs - I haven't been able to find a birth in England (abt 1840), I know he emigrated to Queensland OZ in about the 1860s (records lost), he married in 1872 (have seen a copy of marriage certificate), he fathered 13 children, but can't find a death record.   
So he wasn't born, he didn't die, but he married and fathered a stack of children - really weird eh!      ???   ???   ???

I just thought there may have been a clue with his father's whereabouts to start searching in various census (1841 & 1851) and possibly track him down that way. 

Anyway, thanks for checking, and its always good to find out new things.  I'm sure it will come in useful sometime. 

Cheers
Anita     8)
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I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia and am always searching for the following in Aust & UK:
DORSET - Moore, Reeks;  WILTSHIRE - Chalk, Elkins; HAMPSHIRE - Chalk, Hack;  DERBYSHIRE - Chadwick;
CUMBERLAND - Armstrong, Pearson;  LONDON/KENT AREA - Frith, Knight; YORKSHIRE - Street (WR), Pearson (NR); SOMERSET - Pickford; 
GLOUCESTERSHIRE - Shearman, Tarling;   SCOTLAND - Street, Low, McNab.

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Re: St Pancras 1825 Marriage - Details ??
« Reply #15 on: Monday 28 January 08 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Nanny Jan,
I'll check out the Dorset OPC site and look up some others.  At least I'll have an idea what info to expect now. 

Anita
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I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia and am always searching for the following in Aust & UK:
DORSET - Moore, Reeks;  WILTSHIRE - Chalk, Elkins; HAMPSHIRE - Chalk, Hack;  DERBYSHIRE - Chadwick;
CUMBERLAND - Armstrong, Pearson;  LONDON/KENT AREA - Frith, Knight; YORKSHIRE - Street (WR), Pearson (NR); SOMERSET - Pickford; 
GLOUCESTERSHIRE - Shearman, Tarling;   SCOTLAND - Street, Low, McNab.

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Re: St Pancras 1825 Marriage - Details ??
« Reply #16 on: Monday 28 January 08 11:34 GMT (UK) »

I'm sure the IGI said the marriage took place at the Old Church St Pancras.   Handy to know where, just in case I ever get back to London (not likely unless a money tree starts growing down the backyard lol).  Sue, It was just too bad that the CD you have has St Pancras Soper Lane and not the Old Church. 



Just to let you know that, although the IGI entries say St Pancras Old Church, a marriage in 1825 is likely to have taken place in St Pancras New Church, completed in 1822 as the new parish church about half a mile away on the other side of Euston Road.  Confusingly, the registers indexed on IGI continued under the name of the Old Church even after the move to the New Church!

Here are some pictures of the New Church:

http://www.stpancraschurch.org/index.php?id=25

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: St Pancras 1825 Marriage - Details ??
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 06:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Anna
Thanks for sending me the link for the church.  Its beautiful.  It must have seemed extremely grand when it was first built back in the 1820s.   Even now, it seems rather imposing inside.  Never know, one day I might get to see it, but the website is great to find out about it. 
I'll have to find out about some other churches around England, to see if I can find any others around to get a look.  The only one I significantly remember relating to family history from my visit  to the UK nearly 20 years ago, was a beautiful church at Upwey, Dorset, which had wonderful roses painted at the top of each archway.  I believe this church was where my GGG GM was married. 
Thanks again for the information.      :D :D
Cheers Anita
ALL CENSUS INFORMATION IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia and am always searching for the following in Aust & UK:
DORSET - Moore, Reeks;  WILTSHIRE - Chalk, Elkins; HAMPSHIRE - Chalk, Hack;  DERBYSHIRE - Chadwick;
CUMBERLAND - Armstrong, Pearson;  LONDON/KENT AREA - Frith, Knight; YORKSHIRE - Street (WR), Pearson (NR); SOMERSET - Pickford; 
GLOUCESTERSHIRE - Shearman, Tarling;   SCOTLAND - Street, Low, McNab.