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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #279 on: Sunday 14 June 09 18:51 BST (UK) »
Hi,   Hope you can help.  We are trying to find any records for my wifes gg grandfather, George Rowley, born about 1810 in Bilston, Staffs.    He married a local girl from Llansilin, Denbighshire, N. Wales, in 1832.  She died and he remarried in 1842 in Wrexham.  According to the marriage certificate his father was called John Rowley, occupation, Collier.  His year of birth is calculated from the census returns of 1851-1871 so it could be one or two years out I suppose.    Thanks in anticipation.         Gwyn

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« Reply #280 on: Monday 15 June 09 17:05 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone - going back to the many and varied Jones families of Bilston, I'm descended from Ann Jones, born in/around 1822 at Bilston.  She married at St Peter's Wolverhampton in 1844, and her father is very inconveniently shown in the register simply as J.Jones, a puddler, which gives me plenty of choice but nothing concrete to go on.

Has anyone come across a John/Joseph/James/Job/Jeremiah etc Jones working as a puddler in the town in the 1820s?  It's like looking for a needle in a very large haystack!

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #281 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 22:21 BST (UK) »
Hi juidijee,

my sincere condolences.  I have a John Jones (too young to be yours, I'm afraid) as a visitor on one of the censuses and remember going through all of Bilston on one of the censuses a while ago (I think it was the 1841) and finding a John Jones on pretty much every page. 

There was a chartist leader called John Jones and I began to wonder if it was some elaborate scheme to hide him.

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #282 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 10:20 BST (UK) »
My GGGGrandfather was a John Jones b 1785 Wolverhampton who moved to Bilston but he was a coal miner

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #283 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:03 BST (UK) »
Sigh... :( I think I'l have to return the anonymous J.Jones to the back-burner for a while.
 
Perhaps I'll have more luck with this one - I've just discovered that another of my Bilston family connections donated a drinking fountain to the town.  It is/was engraved 'The gift of Henry Fowler' and dated 1859.  There's a couple of photos of it on the Black Country History website (which I can't reproduce because they're in copyright) and I wonder whether it's still there in Bilston?  From the photos it seems to be located on the corner of a street with a lamp standard or electricity pole in front of it and a white-painted pub in the background across the road.  The fountain is nothing very grand - just a basin with a (missing) water spout where folk could slake their thirst.

Does anyone know anything more about it?

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #284 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 14:29 BST (UK) »
Hiya Judijee

Could you post the link so we can have a look. There is a fountain outside St Marys - wonder if its the same one?

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #285 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 14:39 BST (UK) »
Found the photo but its not the one I was thinking of

The one outside St Marys is the one from High Street Methodist Church which must have been moved. I doesnt help that it doesnt say where it was situated

Though I am intrigued as to why there should be a picture of a lifeboat in Wolverhampton ?!

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #286 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 11:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Willow

I wasn't sure if it was OK to post links here.   There are two photos of the Henry Fowler fountain on the Black Country History site.  The one showing the street and pub behind is on this link -

http://www.blackcountryhistory.org.uk/blackcountry/ShowImage.aspx?img=http://www.blackcountryhistory.org.uk/blackcountry/wolverhamptonimages/%C2%A9p0003051.jpg

The other photo is a close-up of the eroded engraving.

Cheers

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #287 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 12:14 BST (UK) »
Hiya Judijee

I dont recognise the pub and unfortunately the name of the street is just out of view - grrrrr!

Do you recognise it Tony? It could be the George and Dragon in Broad Lanes though I think their door is in the middle

I might be worth dropping the Archives office an e-mail to see if they could tell you

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