Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names

[DudleyWinchurch]

Hi JJ,

Not certain, but I think that the Express & Star (on film at Wolverhampton Archives) may well have been in existence before the 1890s and would most likely have reported such industrial accidents.  Having a very specific date, it should be relatively easy to look up.

[Jumbled Jim]

Thanks DW, is this viewable online or will it have to wait until I make one of my rare visits back to the Black Country?

[DudleyWinchurch]

Thanks DW, is this viewable online or will it have to wait until I make one of my rare visits back to the Black Country?

Haven't seen the new facilities at the Molyneux Hotel yet (my own visits to the Black Country are relatively rare too these days) but used to be film only.

Hmmmm! Archive technology...  I wonder how practicable it would be to create a remote film reader?  I guess someone would have to load it, but one of those electronically controllable ones and a web-cam wouldn't be much more complex than the equipment already available! 

[Trees]

Hi do you cover as far as Brierley Hill by any chance I am looking for the history of the Waterloo Mill Street in one directory1864 it was in High Street which seems a bit strange it must be the same house as the land lord was the same Oliver LOWE. I have him there in 1851 and 1861 censuses and Slater's 1851 directory he was a journeyman maltster in Kingswinford in 1841 so must have move between censuses I am wondering if it was an older pub with a name change to honour the battle or was it new after 1815.
 I am also trying to find anything about The Kings Head in BugHole Holly hall Dudley If anyone can help
Cheers Trees still on a pub crawl 

[Willow 4873]

Hiya JJ

I have looked at the Express and Star site but they say the archives are only available at the archive office (though they need to update that cuz they are still saying Snow Hill)

William wasn't too hard to find as he was the only one born Bilston in that time frame. There were two William Henry's registered in 1891 but the other one died aged 7 which was lucky otherwise we wouldn't have been sure which one it was though it would have been nice if they had put his middle name in

It would be worth getting his marriage certificate just to confirm it completly

Marriage off the Wolverhampton Archives site for his parents

Ettingshall 30 May 1882 George Talbot 25 b Puddler Ettingshall father George Talbot Puddler & Mary Ann Robinson 22 s Ettingshall father William Robinson Furnaceman Banns witnesses John & Maria Robinson

Willow x

[Jumbled Jim]

Thanks again to you both....I'm sure this is the family of Talbots, Willow, and thanks again for getting me past a log jam. Looks like a trip to the BC is in order sooner than I had anticipated to look at the resources in the Molyneux and at the Express and star.

PS I notice a number of posters are wondering about photographs of the Bilston area and buildings therein....have you tried www.geograph.org.uk  ...I know there are a fair number of photographs of present day Bilston on the site and I have found it useful in letting me know just how much of what I remember is still there....sad to see buildings such as Henry Newbolt's home gone (although the gargoyles at the door used to scare me rigid as a child)!

[Willow 4873]

Hiya JJ

This site is useful too for old photos http://www.francisfrith.com/bilston,west-midlands/photos/

Also have you seen this post on Rootschat regarding Winspers? (knew the name rang a bell) http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,339011.0/topicseen.html

Willow x

[Jumbled Jim]

Thanks Willow, I knew about the first site and have my own photographs dating back to only just a little later than the Francis Frith ones. The second link was fascinating and I'm just about to compare my Winspers with those.

I have Jemima Winsper who married Samuel Higgs in 1850 at Coseley Christchurch. I think she was born in 1827 but christened in Bilston 1st Feb 1829. Her parents were William and Sarah, and the 1841 census shows Jemima aged 14 living in Highfields, Sedgley, with mother Sarah, aged 35 (born 1806), and a whole host of siblings, but no father shown. Also present was a 50 years old James Woodall and 40 year old Ann Woodall and their one year old child Martha. So I'm wondering if something had befallen William and Sarah had moved in with her brother or sister and in law. There are a number of William Winspers and so I need to work on which one now.

[Willow 4873]

Hiya JJ

No prob its such an unusual name there must be a connection

Willow x