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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #252 on: Sunday 22 February 09 09:21 GMT (UK) »
I have a question relating to the book.  there is a picture in it of the old Holy Trinity School in the 1990s but a mention that it was already boarded up at the time of publication.  Does it still exist?  If not, does anyone know what happened to the named bricks?  I must try to find a list of those whose contributions were honoured in this way asit looks like one in the picture was from my family.

Sheila, sadly the school is no longer there, it's land was cleared and now consists of new housing as does a lot of the surrounding area. Next time i'm in that area i'll try and find out which Developer built the housing as they would have been the ones who probably cleared the site, you never know, it's just possible they placed the bricks in safe keeping.

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« Reply #253 on: Sunday 22 February 09 19:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the information Tony,

I'll have to find out if either the Archives or the parish priest has a list somwhere of all the names.

I was just thinking that, if they had the bricks, they could sell them off again for the school funds.  Looks like that's another opportunity that may have been missed.

Sheila
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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« Reply #254 on: Thursday 12 March 09 13:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi All
Through the 1911 census we have discovered that my wifes Great Granddad George Shelley was the publican of the White Lion Public House Temple Street Bilston could anyone provide me with any information on this Public House?


Regards Doug

Hi Doug......PM sent  :)

Paper Mill in Bilston currently have several copies of "Images of England-Bilston,Tettenhall and Wednesbury" usualy £12.99 but now at £8.00.

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #255 on: Thursday 12 March 09 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Yes we had the Bilston book from Paper Mill recently. Very interesting, haven't found any of my family in there yet though. :)
Hi Tony55, noticed you have a Tranter of Birmingham in your tree. I was a Patternmaker there with a Malcome Tranter early 1950's.
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« Reply #256 on: Thursday 12 March 09 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Midlanders,
  Welcome to Rootschat  :) I pop into Paper Mill every couple of weeks as their always changing their stock but sometimes only get a couple of books in which soon go.
 
Hi Tony55, noticed you have a Tranter of Birmingham in your tree. I was a Patternmaker there with a Malcome Tranter early 1950's.
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As far as i'm aware all my family were in the Brass industry around the Lodge Hill and Jewelery Quarter areas, mostly wire drawers and pen knibs and fancy goods, then from just before ww2 in the car industry at Longbridge .

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« Reply #257 on: Monday 23 March 09 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I'm trying to push some researches in and around Bilston back to the early 1800s on one side of a family (Wellings, Winsper,  Parish/Parrish, Higgs, Boad, Bunce) and trying to get started at all on the other side (William Henry Talbot b about 1891). Two great grandfathers (Bunce and Wellings) were independently killed in accidents in a foundary in Bilston around 1890-1893. Most of the early Wellings and Bunces would appear to have been iron puddlers. Higgs was a licensed victualler. A later Wellings, Rose Wellings, became a pub landlord somewhere in the Bilston/Darlaston area.

It  is rumoured that William Henry Talbot's father was at some time a jewellery worker, again from the Bilston area.

I noted that an earlier poster had mentioned Higgs, and another, Winsper. Winsper is almost certainly related to any Winspers I have discovered since the name is apparently extremely rare, and certainly so in Bilston.

Any help would be most gratefully received since, living as I do in Scotland, visits to Bilston are extremely infrequent.

Many thanks,

JJ
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« Reply #258 on: Monday 23 March 09 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi JJ,

Have you checked out FREEREG at:
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
and Wolverhampton Archives site at:
http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory

Don't recollect the other names at present but there were lots of Winspers in the Bilston area in the 19C and a little earlier.  It's possible that they were all related to each other.
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #259 on: Monday 23 March 09 19:51 GMT (UK) »
Hiya JJ

Welcome to Rootschat!

Dont forget to try FreeREG http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl - lots of Winspers on there

Off the 1901 census all born Bilston

5 Gozzard Street Bilston

George Talbot 45 Head m pudler in ironworks
Mary Ann 40 wife M
George Thomas 21 son labourer at blast furnace
John 16 son Painter
William 11 son
Ernest? 8 son
Beatrice 3 dau

RG13/2689 Folio 156 Page 1

Willow x


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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #260 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks DW and Willow. In fact Willow, that's amazing.....I have searched and searched for ages and not managed to find the right Talbots....I was beginning to think they might have been averse to filling in census forms or anything like, and possibly avoided the enumerator too. This is the right area, and judging by the names (which I had no idea of in this generation) likely to be correct, since many of these names were passed to the next generation. This gives me a toe-hold, thanks again!

As for the Winspers, as a Bilston name goes, I was under the impression that there were a few, but not as many as say Fellows or Hickman or a few others I could mention. They appear to have been a fairly short-lived group, although I gather there may still be one Winsper living in Bilston. Parish/Parrish also seem to be similarly short lived and relatively infrequent.

Wellings is an interesting one....after the death of the household (William) in the iron foundary accident, the wife remarried to Probert and the children took on the new surname. This caused all sorts of problems until I had worked out what had happened. At least one of the children by the first husband then reverted to the original name, Wellings, although I suspect they may all have done this....so there is a James Edward Wellings (I have this completely covered), Rose Wellings (apparently became a landlady of a pub possibly in Moxley), Albert Wellings (possibly coal and possibly served in WW1) and William Wellings who apparently moved to Shrewsbury and became a market trader....and these I have not managed to trace as yet. The Winspers, Boads, Parish/Parrish, Higgs and Bunce families are further back in the Wellings line and are fairly new discoveries. Incidentally, James Edward Wellings  went on to become Mayor of Bilston.

Any ideas how I could track down reports of William Wellings industrial accident and that of Joseph Bunce who died on 29th August 1891, although apparently the accident had happened a week or so previously? It's just conceivable that they were both mortally injured in the same "explosion". I've tried all the obvious on the internet.....but then Willow made that breakthrough where I had failed. Just goes to show that more than one working on something or taking a break and going back to a problem often results in a solution.

Thanks again.

JJ
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