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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #135 on: Friday 24 October 08 09:47 BST (UK) »
After researching my family tree, I have found that I have quite a number of relatives from Bilston. I am interested in TOWN/S, HARTHILL, and HARTSHORN.
TIA.  :)
TOWN/S - Oxfordshire, Bilston, Sheffield
HARTHILL - Bilston
HARTSHORN - Bilston
PRICE - Bilston
BRIDDON - Sheffield

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #136 on: Saturday 08 November 08 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Returning to the original theme, I am now going to have a go at putting together information from various different sources to describe a group of Bilston "friends and neighbours".

[modify: I'm going to start a new thread with this one, so it doesn't get missed, and will try to cross-link them]
[link here (hopefully): http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,340327.0.html]

Going through some census sheets that I had printed out a while ago, today, I found an example from 1871 in Temple St, #2 court at RG10:2950:F150

On the first page of the folio (page 29) we start with:

House #1: James & Mary McKew and family - from William's baptism, I find mother was a Mary Halligan and his godmother was a Catherine McDonough (likely the first wife of Michael McDonough who appears later, as she was originally a Catherine McKew)

#2 James and Mary Oakley with family and lodgers (a tiny grand-daughter's name appears to have been amended because her parents weren't married)

#3 William Brannon, wife Mary and 3 children & William's brother. From the Holy Trinity baptismal index, I can see that William was baptised in Bilston and his mother's maiden name was Walsh.  There are two sets of lodgers in the same household, a widower and daughter named Gaven and Edward Walsh and son, also Edward.  The older Edward seems to be still married but wife not at home.

#4 John and Ellen Nayley? with child Hannah and widowed stepmother Hannah Durkin

#5 Stephen and Honora Coughlin and children

#6 Barney and Sarah Callaghan and lodger George Bucknall

#7 Michael and Winifred McDonough with Mary and Julia.  Mary's mother was Catherine McKew.  Some time after Catherine's death, Michael remarried to widow Winifred Biggins, whose maiden name was Lally.  Winifred is Julia's mother.
With them are lodgers John Murphy and Mary with daughter Bridget.  According to FREEBMD a John Murphy may have married a Mary Clynes in this region in 1867. [this McDonough family is strongly suspected to closely related to my ancestors and there is a John Clynes who is godparent to one of the children in my family]

#8 Thomas and Ann Evans and two children

Court #2 seems to be between houses 50 and 51 on Temple Street itself and at 51 and 52 are more Halligan and Lally families.

It will be quite a while, but I suspect that there will be even more information on these families when the transcription of the baptismal index is complete.

Many of these names have come up in our discussions so I would love comments and feedback - particularly from descendants of these families.
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours
« Reply #137 on: Saturday 08 November 08 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Another list of names ...

Mary Ann Chillington - 1867
John McNully/MCNulty/McNolty? - 1868m 1889
Eliza Joyce - 1868
William Jones - 1870
John O'Brien - 1870
Bridget Taylor - 1870
Benjamin Shale - 1871, 1888
John Clarke - 1872
Mary Clynes - 1874
Matthew Ward - 1876
Francis Scally - 1877
Jane Clynes - 1877
Joseph Wright - 1880, 1881
Frances Wright - 1880
John Farrell - 1881
Johanna/Jane? Jones - 1881
Joseph and Elizabeth Corkindale - 1883 (related to Williams family?)
John Kelly - 1887
Thomas Hartill - 1887
Maria Parmer - 1887

Remember:
that dates are when they became godparents
first names are translated from Latin in many cases
family names also seem to have very variable spelling in that register

There are still more names and the ones I've listed here are just godparents to my family.  I also have records of baptisms of children of some of these people and some marriage details, so a lot more names too.  So do get in touch if your family were in Bilston at around that time (any time 19th or early 20th Centuries)

You have a Thomas Hartill listed here - I have a thomas Hartill in my family - born 1844 in Bilston.
Jo
TOWN/S - Oxfordshire, Bilston, Sheffield
HARTHILL - Bilston
HARTSHORN - Bilston
PRICE - Bilston
BRIDDON - Sheffield

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #138 on: Saturday 08 November 08 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jo,

all the information that I have is that a Thomas Hartill was godfather to Rosanna Mary Markesky, daughter of Alexander and Agnes (McDonough) at Holy Trinity Church in 1887.  The godmother was Maria (or Mary) Parmer.

If you have a connection with this family I'd love to swap notes.

Sheila
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)


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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #139 on: Saturday 08 November 08 22:37 GMT (UK) »
I have not come across across anything yet. Thomas Hartill was brother to Ann Towns (nee Hartill), my gg grandmother. Will let you know if I come across anything.

Jo
TOWN/S - Oxfordshire, Bilston, Sheffield
HARTHILL - Bilston
HARTSHORN - Bilston
PRICE - Bilston
BRIDDON - Sheffield

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #140 on: Saturday 08 November 08 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jo,

is the Mary Hartill who married William Blunt related to you?  They had children in the 1890s?
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #141 on: Saturday 08 November 08 23:27 GMT (UK) »
No, I dont think so. Ann did have a sister Mary Hartill, but she married a Joseph Unwin of Derbyshire, and they moved to Sheffield.
TOWN/S - Oxfordshire, Bilston, Sheffield
HARTHILL - Bilston
HARTSHORN - Bilston
PRICE - Bilston
BRIDDON - Sheffield

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #142 on: Monday 10 November 08 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Jo,

not sure which Mary Hartill this is then, but just found one, aged 34? (not very clear) in 1891, working as a barmaid at the Golden Cup, 53 High Street, Bilston with my great-great-uncle William Dudley and his second wife (probably Elizabeth Vincent Shale).
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #143 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sheila,
This must be another Mary Hartill as 'my' Mary Hartill was already married and living in Sheffield in 1891, aged 37.
Jo
TOWN/S - Oxfordshire, Bilston, Sheffield
HARTHILL - Bilston
HARTSHORN - Bilston
PRICE - Bilston
BRIDDON - Sheffield