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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #72 on: Saturday 29 March 08 16:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi BigJon
I also have family from Sedgley have you seen the website www.Sedgleymanor.com some good info on there.

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« Reply #73 on: Sunday 30 March 08 17:50 BST (UK) »
Hiya Bigjon

Welcome to Rootschat

Have you seen the Wolverhampton Archive site http://www.wolverhamptonarchives.dial.pipex.com/homepage.shtml and FreeREG http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl a lot of the church records have been transcribed for Bilston and Wolverhampton.

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« Reply #74 on: Sunday 30 March 08 21:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Washy,

I've been away at the archives last week but not had time as yet to sort all my findings.

Hi Bigjon,
Dudley has it's own archives in Coseley and they are very helpful.  It's walking distance from Coseley station (although I haven't as yet tested that) but it does have a free car-park too if you go by car.

and for all the other Bilston Rootschatters, sorry I didn't find any Durkin/Durkins but I think I've found some Marr (Mehea) children.

Tired tonight but I'll post more later in the week when I have had time to go through all my notes.

Sheila
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #75 on: Monday 31 March 08 12:22 BST (UK) »
For Dartmoor,

Back at the Archives last week, in the registers for Bilston, Holy Trinity, I've found:
a marriage for Henry Marr to Ellen Watson, wit: Elizabeth Bullock, Thomas (Turnile?)  Aug 12th, 1845 (you'd need the cert for full details as they only put brief notes in the church register

baptism (3rd jan 1847) for Dinah d/o Henrici & Helena (nee Watson) born 27th Dec 1846, godparents Joannes (John) Davis, Maria (could be Maria or Mary) Morrison

baptism (29th Jan 1840) for Sharlotte Mahea d/o Danielis & Sharlotte (is that an error, or did she have more than one name, or was he married twice?) (nee LucNehean?), born 26th Jan 1840, godparents: Joannes Mehea, Jane Mehea

baptism (2nd July 1841) for Joannes Marr s/o Joannis & Margarita Marr (nee Luckman?) godp: Dennis Marr, Allis Marr, born 1st July 1841 (could this be same family or close relatives?)

Baptism (17th Apr 1842) Joannis Marr s/o Danielis & Maria Marr (nee Luignain?) born 26/3/1842, godm: Helena Smith

baptism (16/8/1844) James Marr s/o Daniel & Mary (nee LochMahen), born 8/8/1844, godp: Thomas Ryan, Alice Maher

I have some pics but quality variable, if you'd like to PM me an email address.

It certainly gives you a flavour of the variability of these (semi-latinised) registers. Translations above are mine.
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)


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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #76 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 14:38 BST (UK) »
Hallo Sheila

My great-grandfather brought up his family in Bilston, and I have found it difficult to gather information about them, so you can imagine how thrilled I was to come across this thread!  I live south of London, and have not yet even visited the Black Country. 

This is what I know. 

Eugene Owen SMITH (later referred to as simply Owen Smith), a Roman Catholic,  emigrated to Staffordshire from Lahard, County Cavan, Ireland at the age of 22 in 1853, so he was born in 1831.  He was appointed to the Staffordshire Police.

He married Selina NAYLOR, from Sedgley, in the Catholic chapel in Oxford Street, Bilston, on 19th January 1858, when they were both about 26 years old. 

Owen was promoted to segeant in 1861, and in that year's census was living in the Police Station, 3 Mount Pleasant Road, Bilston.  In 1871 the family is living in West Bromwich, and in 1881 they are back in Bilston,  at 5 Vine Street.  I believe in fact they were in Bilston from 1874 until at least 1882, when Owen died at home at the age of 50 from peritonitis. 

Working from the censuses, the family of Owen and Selina SMITH was:
Elizabeth Annie Smith, born 1859, dressmaker.

John Thomas Smith, born in Bilston on 3rd June 1860.  He married Ruth Williams in Sedgley on 23rd May 1881.  Iron shingler.

Eugene Samuel Smith, born 1862 in Wolverhampton.  He married Elizabeth Helen GILES in the parish church of Bilston on 5th March 1893.  The address for both of them was Mountford Lane, Bilston.  Eugene may have been known as Sam, and his occupation is given as clothier.  In the 1891 census Elizabeth is down as as boot machinist.  She died in 1899, and Eugene subsequently married Florence BROWN in Wolverhampton.

Joseph Henry SMITH, born 1864, iron shingler.

Mary Selina SMITH, born 1866.

Agnes SMITH, born 1870.

Francis Clement SMITH, my grandfather, born 28th March 1874 in Bilston.  Francis enlisted in the North Staffordshire Regiment in 1893, and served a term of 12 years as a private, seeing service in the Sudan and in India.  His occupation is given variously as confectioner, chef/baker or ship's cook.  He re-enlisted on 20th September 1914 in Valcartier, near Quebec, as a Canadian Dragoon, and was invalided out after being wounded at Ploegh Street in 1915.  He never returned to Bilston, as far as I know.  His marriage and family life was not a success, and he committed suicide in London in 1932.

I have practically no oral history of Francis Clement Smith, other than that his mother-in-law said it was "not worth taking the time to bury him".  I should be very grateful if anyone can help me fill out these bare facts.

Best wishes

Beetle.       
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Smiths in Bilston, Staffs
Naylors in Sedgley, Staffs

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« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Beetle,

I don't have any Smiths that I know of as yet in my family so won't have been deliberately collecting them but will look out for them on the images I have and add them to my list of folk to look out for.

I hope that you know that that was the first (or maybe only) moated Police Station in the country.  And it's still there.

There was an Agnes Smith confirmed with the name of Elizabeth at Holy Trinity (the catholic Church/Chapel) in 1881 which would be about right for your Agnes.

I am transcribing most of the confirmation lists for Holy Trinity at present and hope to put them up on the web if I can get some rootsweb space when it's all sorted out.

Sheila
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #78 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 11:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Beetle
I was born and lived in Bilston till my early twenties and live 35 minutes drive away. My mother and parents also lived in Mountford Lane, in the 1940's, and one of my to do items is to visit and photograph the house that she lived in, assuming of course that it is still standing.  If it's of help, I would be happy to take a photo of your ancestors house at the same time and email it to you, also a photo if you wish of Bilston Police station which is just round the corner from Mountford Lane.

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #79 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 11:21 BST (UK) »
Hiya Beetle

Heres Bilston Police Station http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/listed/bilston34police.htm

Also try FreeREG and Wolverhampton Archives site as they have transcribed a lot ot the parish records

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« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 11:49 BST (UK) »
Hi,I have a William Clarke dob c1855 born in Bilston.I think ?the one I am after was in Smith St in 1861aged 6 .Trouble is there were a few William Clarkes born around that year.Can not find a marriage for him to check fathers name.''my''William joined Kings Royal Rifle corps in 1876.
does this fit in with anyone?  thanks
Sims KENT
Hawkins GLOUS
Clarke STAFFORD
Danks WARW
Parker WARW
Godfrey M/SEX
RossWARW