Author Topic: Help with name of Abode, please - COMPLETED with thanks (Read 1820 times)

blodwen · « **on:** Monday 21 January 08 15:48 GMT (UK) »

Hallo,
could SKS please try to decipher the name of this house/farm.

Thanks

Viv

Gadget · « **Reply #1 on:** Monday 21 January 08 15:58 GMT (UK) »

Hi Viv

It looks like:

Henyaguberdderyn or Henyaguberddey?

Hen is old and aderyn is bird but the bit in the middle seems odd $:-\$

Could you give the full census ref so that I could have a look, please?

Gadget

blodwen · « **Reply #2 on:** Monday 21 January 08 16:02 GMT (UK) »

Sure Gadget,

1891 Wales(of course) Census
RG12,4652,30 11

John Roberts b. 1816 Llanengan
Jane Roberts b. 1827
William Roberts b. 1856

Thanks

Viv

Gadget · « **Reply #3 on:** Monday 21 January 08 16:16 GMT (UK) »

The description puts it in the Cilan area. I'm checking maps now to see if i can see any of the others on the page.

Gadget

Gadget · « **Reply #4 on:** Monday 21 January 08 16:22 GMT (UK) »

There's a farm now called Ysgubor Hen on the current OS map

Grid Centre: SH 304 250

Just north of Mynydd Cilan

Henysgubor - Ysgubor Hen seems plausible

Gadget

blodwen · « **Reply #5 on:** Monday 21 January 08 16:28 GMT (UK) »

Hi Gaget,

you have just solved the problem - the enumerator obviously couldn't understand what they were saying -

Could it be Ysgubor ddegwm or Henyagu ddegwm?

Viv

Gadget · « **Reply #6 on:** Monday 21 January 08 16:30 GMT (UK) »

Yer welcome, Viv

Last time you had to ask your mother

Gadget

blodwen · « **Reply #7 on:** Monday 21 January 08 16:31 GMT (UK) »

Your right there, Gadget,

Won't need to bother her this time

Viv

hanteu · « **Reply #8 on:** Monday 21 January 08 19:04 GMT (UK) »

It's fairly definately Hen ysgubor ddegwm. Degwm is the Welsh word for Tithe - I think this was a payment due to the church, originally paid in grain?
Ysgubor Ddegwm is Tithebarn, Hen ysguborddegwm is Old Tithebarn.

Iwan

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