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[regknowles]

My Alexander Knowles born 26.9.1835 at Stenton. Married Lillias Shields 11.05.1855 Their children Isabella 1856 at Stenton,Alexander 1858 at Prestonkirk, Annie.W.1861 at Stenton,John Knowles 1863 at Stenton (my Great Grandfather),Robert Knowles 1870 at Athelstaneford.

[f1rocco]

My latest found possible leads for my Shiels side pre 1795 using the Andrew as the fathers name combo......I know probably no connection..


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On the birth of my ggggGrandfather John Shiells b. 1795 to whom..in Scotland.....??..

Seems kinda young but


John Shiell b. 1750 marries Agnes Allan b. 1754...Marries on 1775

Child....... Andrew Shiels b. October 3rd 1776

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Further back

John Shiels Marries Christian Tait November 8th 1755

Child

Andrew Shiels

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 Andrew Shiels marries Janet Purdon 1732

children

James   1733
Isabel   1735
Janet    1736
Thomas 1739
Andrew 1744
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Even Further back

Andrew Shiels b. 1670 marries Elizabeth Bogell / Bogle  b. 1674

Children

Agnes     1696
John        1698
Thomas   1701
Margaret 1702
Janet       1707
Andrew   1712
? Female 1704
Isabell     1709

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Andrew Shiels b. 1702 M Elizabeth Nivine...August 4th 1727

Child.... John Shiels b July 8th 1729

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One more distant shot

Andrew Shiels b. 1665 England

child

William Shields B:  abt 1691
OF Felton Northumberland England
M:  5 Jun 1712
Felton Northumberland England

Elizabeth Dixon B:  abt 1692
England
   

Child

Andrew Shiels B:  Jan 1727/0
Felton Northumberland England
M:  24 Apr 1757
Haltwhistle Northumberland England

Mary Lowes B:  Jan 1733/0
Haltwistle Northumberland England

child

John Shields B:  1760
 
   
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Probably nothing but kept me busy surfing 6 hours searching....

[f1rocco]

Here the missing web page I couldnt find earlier....

John Shiels b. 1795 had a brother Andrew that helped sell while at Myles Farm.......

Bankruptcy Article.....

http://www.xeoxeo.com/491/

[MonicaL]

Hi Jason

It's late here and I'm probably mis-reading this  but isn't Andrew a son to John Shiells b. 1795, not a brother.

".. with concurrence of John Shiells, farmer, Myles, near Tranent, his father...."

Andrew does have the dispute with a brother (unnamed). Given that we only have three sons for John: Andrew/George/John and George was living with Andrew in England later on, then maybe the Andrew's dispute was with John who we haven't tracked through the censuses (and by the sounds of it, may have been living in Newcastle).

From the 1881 census entry that we already have (looking like he resolved his financial difficulties of the 1850s  ):

1881: B Callerton Farm (2) , Black Callerton, Northumberland
Ref: RG11 /  Piece: 5099 /  Folio: 125 /  Pg 13
Head: Andrew SHIELLS 55, Farmer Of 363 Ac Employing 6 Men 5 Women  b Scotland   
Wife: Isabella SHIELLS  40 , Farmers Wife Winlaton, Durham       
Son: John SHIELLS 3,  b Newburn, Northumberland   
Dau: Mary E. SHIELLS 1   , b Newburn, Northumberland     
Brother: George SHIELLS , 53, Farm Serv 2 Assistant to Herd (Ag Lab Indoor) , b Scotland
Nephew: James SHIELLS 16   Scholar, b Newburn, Northumberland,
Nephew:  George SHIELLS   14, Scholar, Newburn, Northumberland

Monica 

[f1rocco]

After reading it a few more times your right Monica......

Seems like Andrew son of John brang this argument up in court on his fathers behalf(John Shiels).....But I believe that their seems to be a brother of John Living in NewCastle in or around 1856-1860.....I dont see Andrews brother George son of John Shiels being the brother that wouldnt pay up.............


Well its another bit of priceless info for now......

Thanks

[f1rocco]

One more partial mention Ive found of the Andrew Shiells son of John @ Myles Tranent  case..Page 122..

I couldnt connect their mention of continuation on page 131...Nor could I find anything else by searching Google Books...

http://www.xeoxeo.com/495/

I still think that what I read a month or so ago was the same John and Andrew against Johns brother Alexander maybe Andrew but I think the brother was Alexander.......

Im thinking it mentioned Myles Tranent and the date and year and argument appeared to be the same argument.. Possible details of the finest peaches and live stock raised/grown in that area and that the brother Alexander/Andrew sold and kept the money that caused the Bankruptcy....

With such details and names listed in this lost page Im guessing the publication date should  have been 1856-58.......It had less legal jargon and more detail just on their quality of goods.......

But that online document I thought I saved and didnt...I went to post it online and copied the wrong url......Poooof then it vanished...I searched my PC the next day and couldnt find it.......Phew it had like a 1000 pages I looked at that night....

Ill find it again.........

[robeena]

I hope I am not butting in here but I am from Australia and am looking for a Logan/Shiels connection in East Lothian. I am particualy interested to the family of Marion shiels Logan born ca 1833 daughter of John Logan and Catherine nee Jackson.  I can find the family on the censuses until 1861 then Cathrine dies 1863 and I cannot find John or his death.  They lived in Haddington and he says he was born Gladsmuir ca 1795. If anyone knows of a Logan Shiels connection I would be grateful.  I have a Jane & Peter Logan born 1825 and 1830ish respectively supposed children of James Logan and Jane Brock.  No other siblings known. Jane left Scotland 1848 and Peter went to US ending up in Aus. in 1852. Possibly on 1841 in Tranent Peter son of Widow Logan unable to find Jane. ANY help appreciated.
Robeena