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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 24 January 08 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Gee! That is some map!
Hmm, might have a go at one of them for my own tree :-)

Good find Monica on that METE one  ;D   The son - Bessie and Ellen's brother "Willice" .......was Wallace NUTE, I think......I can see him in England in 1881, 1891 and 1901. He gives Saltash as his POB in one.

Oh the tangled webs........ ;D

That now makes sense to me:

of : Bessie NUTE's marriage to GIBSON, which was registered in Cathcart RNF, yet the address of the Church was Cathcart Road, Glasgow and they lived at 89 John Street Blythswood, Glasgow City at the time....must be a splitting up of a town into 2 counties??

of: Ellen NUTE's marriage cert to Peter, stated her mother as Elizabeth NUTE, MS NUTE. And the 2 witness were likely her brother Jabez (still looks like  James John to me) and sister Bessie.

I don't think Jason had the death of Ellen..I think Wendy and I  were looking in Lanark and coming up empty.   Monica , do you think the 1902 Death of a Peter SHIELDS in Lanarkshire is him, aged  52 - so born abt 1850...I can't work out the Parish though. (I was also concerned this could be the other Peter SHIELDS, a Riverter,  b abt 1848 who was in Glasgow with a wife named Ellen in 1901)

Regarding the 1881 Census - we are missing Peter and Ellen, and now Elizabeth, Bessie, Emily and probably Jabez - by all accounts probably all on John Street?  I found people on 89 John St. in 1881 but not them....then it has that Peter & Ellen's "Uncle" or son Charles, who appears to have been born in Dumbartonshire 1877-1880 - and their daughter Janet born Glasgow abt 1881....I]

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AMBLY

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 24 January 08 22:56 GMT (UK) »
I've hunted high and low for Peter and Ellen in 1881 on SP (gave up on Ancestry for that one) and can't as yet find them.  Also searched England  :-\  You would think though they were in Glasgow by then.  Also searched for Nute (born anywhere) in 1881 Scotland and nada!
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 24 January 08 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Ambly, the death of a Peter Shields in 1902 has to be the right one  ;D :

1902   SHIELDS   PETER BLACKIE        52   KELVIN   GLASGOW CITY/LANARK   644/09 1342
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 24 January 08 23:09 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D  How did we miss this Ambly (probably due to lack of sleep from late night searches  ;))

1881
Henry Neute 21,  head, iron miner, b. England ~ where's he sprung up from?!
Isabella Neute    19, wife, b. Dalry, Ayrshire
Elizabeth Neute 61, mother, b. England
Bessie Neute    28, sister, b. England
Emily Neute    8, niece, b England

Address: 112 Knightswood Rows, New Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 24 January 08 23:11 GMT (UK) »
I've hunted high and low for Peter and Ellen in 1881 on SP (gave up on Ancestry for that one) and can't as yet find them.  Also searched England  :-\  You would think though they were in Glasgow by then.  Also searched for Nute (born anywhere) in 1881 Scotland and nada!

Didnt really search this one yet but John Shiells was born in Berwickshire I believe 1792ish.....He was a farmer with 435 acres in 1856........In 1786-1791 I have found on page 188 a Marion Shiells who was a I think farmers son in Berwickshire who married a servants daughter Jean Somerville..He was sent by his family to Jamaica..To come back to get a divorce from Jean SHiellslater .Interesting  

Page 188

Schiells/Shiells/Shiels/Shields
Berwickshire/Lothian/Edinburgh/
NewCastle/Northumberland/Crichton
Nute/Nisbet/Magoffin/Phillips

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 24 January 08 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Gee! That is


Regarding the 1881 Census - we are missing Peter and Ellen, and now Elizabeth, Bessie, Emily and probably Jabez - by all accounts probably all on John Street?  I found people on 89 John St. in 1881 but not them....then it has that Peter & Ellen's "Uncle" or son Charles, who appears to have been born in Dumbartonshire 1877-1880 - and their daughter Janet born Glasgow abt 1881....I]


Emily I think was born in 1873 in Northamptonshire and Peter was possibly in the miliatary in Wales in 1871....Dunno....Ellen in Cornwall and connections to Devon........

Im thinking


Schiells/Shiells/Shiels/Shields
Berwickshire/Lothian/Edinburgh/
NewCastle/Northumberland/Crichton
Nute/Nisbet/Magoffin/Phillips

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 24 January 08 23:28 GMT (UK) »
Wow.......

This is like one of the Crime shows......Very addictive....Once I get low on leads I will have to join you gals in other searches...If you need an extra searcher on something let me know.....Im there.....With all this searching....You gals feel like my sisters...........

Thanks

Bro
Schiells/Shiells/Shiels/Shields
Berwickshire/Lothian/Edinburgh/
NewCastle/Northumberland/Crichton
Nute/Nisbet/Magoffin/Phillips

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 24 January 08 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Oh Goodie  - glad it's him...Peter, was there a hospital in Kelvin district...rings a bell  ;D

I have the 1881 Disc for Lanark on the Lowlands Disc (my Highlands Disc is broken  :'( but I cannot see them on it either......

Oh, my stars! Just about to post about Jabex below, as you posed with the  1881 NEUTE ! Clever you!  How indeed did we miss it?  ;D  ;DI can't believe we did actually!

And look at where they are...might be thinking again about that Charles SHEILDS - maybe Peter & Ellen  adopted him.....?

Now Jabez...I can see him immediatelly in England 1871 (in Service)

This is him I think in 1901:
Haggs,  Denny, Stirlingshire
Ref: Parish 476/2, ED 1, pg 40
Address Neuks Cottages
Head: Jabey NUTE 43, Coal Miner - Hewer, b England (abt 1858)
Wife: Edith NUTE 50, Post Mistress, b England (abt 1851)
Son: John NUTE 23, Signalman, b Old Kilpatrick Dumbarton (abt 1878)
Dau: Edith NUTE 17, Grocers Shopwoman, British Subject, America (abt 1884)

Hmmm - where is HE in 1891 and 1881.....!

Another tidbit.... I wonder if the NUTE son in 1851 Census, John S - is actually John James....and if this is him:

http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1891/04/056bir.htm
Ship BIRKSGATE ...............to SYDNEY, New South Wales, 14th April 1891
No Passengers on this ship only crew - one of which is:  
NUTE JAMES  - CARPENTER age  44  of SCOTLAND  - CREW

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 24 January 08 23:40 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Bro!

Aint nothing like jumping in with both feet  -  Best way to get the low!

Browse the boards, pick on one and give it a go  ;D

http://shrinkalink.com/21129
Link to that one you found re: Marion SHIELLS...

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