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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 23 January 08 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Kind offer Jason....especially the funny stuff  ::)....but the thrill of the search is enough....Ambly and I (and Wendy  ;)) have had fun with this one  ;D

As Ambly said, you have gathered a huge number of lines, names and connections.  You need to sit down now and make sense of it all (a good genealogy software would help too to help you keep track and  make sense of it all).

There will undoubtedly be gaps to fill (there always are) and details that need to be verified but you now have more than the bare bones to fill out.  Do post back with any updates!

Regards.

Monica  :)
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 23 January 08 09:34 GMT (UK) »
The issue of the name of George's wife, given that he shows as a widower in the 1871 in Black Callerton.

Ambly has found a death entry for a Jane Shields in 1870 in the right district for Black Callerton. There is a also a submitted entry on IGI which shows a marriage for a George Shields and a Jane Thomson in 1869 in Black Callerton, Newburn.  Nothing else to verify this info at present.

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Monica
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 23 January 08 09:43 GMT (UK) »
And Ditto from me ;D This one has kept me  well intrigued for a good few minutes  ;D

At last count I believe I got 2 cyber-kisses from Rochester -  what more could a girl ask for... apart from  if I find I have any ancestors within xxx mile radius from Rochester NY , I know who I'm a-gonna call.............. ;D ;D ;D

Look forward to hearing/seeing  how you go on with these!

(Still pondering Bessie with the Thrapston born daughter though..........)


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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 23 January 08 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Can't find Bessie or daughter in 1881/91...they're out there somewhere!

Ambly, from your 1881 Census for George:

1881: B Callerton Farm (2) , Black Callerton, Northumberland
Ref: RG11 /  Piece: 5099 /  Folio: 125 /  Pg 13
Head: Andrew SHIELLS 55, Farmer Of 363 Ac Employing 6 Men 5 Women  b Scotland   
Wife: Isabella SHIELLS  40 , Farmers Wife Winlaton, Durham       
Son: John SHIELLS 3,  b Newburn, Northumberland   
Dau: Mary E. SHIELLS 1   , b Newburn, Northumberland     
Brother: George SHIELLS , 53, Farm Serv 2 Assistant to Herd (Ag Lab Indoor) , b Scotland
Nephew: James SHIELLS 16   Scholar, b Newburn, Northumberland,
Nephew:  George SHIELLS   14, Scholar, Newburn, Northumberland


The two nephews above James and George in 1871 in Black Callerton, Newburn (sons of George?):

James Thomson 70, head, schoolmaster
Robert Thomson    29, son, tailor,
Ra James Shiells 6, grandson, b. Newburn
George Shiells 4, grandson, b. Newburn
Mary Ann Swond    60, housekeeper


Monica


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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 23 January 08 10:05 GMT (UK) »
 :D The marriage from freebmd:

Marriages Jun 1864   
Shiells    George     Newcastle T 10b 33   
Thompson Jane    Newcastle T10b 33   

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 23 January 08 10:16 GMT (UK) »
 :'( Perhaps the reason why Jane Thomson Shields died in 1870:

John Sheills     Birth:  APR 1870  Black Callerton, Newburn, Northumberland, England
Death:  13 JUL 1870      
Parents: George Sheills and Jane Thompson    

Shiells    Jane  age 42 at Castle W.10b 165-  Deaths 3rd Quarter 1870

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 24 January 08 00:45 GMT (UK) »
Special Thanks to alll........

I would like to attach your usernames and or names to my list throughout its travels to my family and through the net to other familys.....

Thanks again......Im still working on it and needed to put it all together so I can keep it simple for releatives and others.....I went to our big library today.....There is alot of info out there.....lol 
Schiells/Shiells/Shiels/Shields
Berwickshire/Lothian/Edinburgh/
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Nute/Nisbet/Magoffin/Phillips

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 24 January 08 00:46 GMT (UK) »
SHIELDS FAMILY

Me
......Jason E Shields
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My Father

James E Shields born 1951 married 1971 Linda Magoffin 1956...Parents Richard Magoffin and Ramona Cook
children

Jason 1971
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Grandfather

Edward Shields born 1925 married 1947 to May Phillips Shields ...1921-2005...Parents Horace Phillips and Gertrude
children

James Shields born 1951

Robert Shields 1953 married 1983 Janet Hoh..
children
   *Dau Heather Shields 1991
   *Son Travis Shields 1995
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Great Grandfather

James B Shields born 1886-1961....married Winnifred   1895 -1/1/1930
children
John: 1/31/13-11/12/99
James
Alan: 5/22/16-5/23/93
Winfred: 10/09/19-8/06/87
Edward: 8/28/25
Robert:

Known addresses in Rochester, New York State for sons James and Alexander from Scotland

Ellis Island 1910 Info

James traveled on the ship  "The Furnessia" 5/16/10 Glasgow to NY..Furnessia built in 1880 scrapped in England in 1911 he appears to be alone visiting his brother in law Hugh Reid....He describes himself as 5'9 Dark complexion Dark hair and Grey Eyes...

Alexander Shields 26, married, telegraphist, Scottish, last residence: Glasgow
Contact in Scotland: Mother: Mrs Shields of 457 Rutherglen Road, Glasgow
Destination Pittsburg PA - Non Immigrant Alien

Hugh REID 30, married, Photographer, Scottish, last residence: Glasgow
Contact in Scotland: Brother in Law: John Shields of 451 Rutherglen Road, Glasgow
Destination: Rochester NY

 
In 1910 Alexanders returns from Glasgow for the last time on "The Columbia" 3/27/10 Glasgow to NY..Built 1902 renamed Columbella 1914..Columbia in 1919 later scrapped Italy 1929...He travels with William H. Reid born 1880.....Known as Hugh on manuscript.....Brother in Law from Scotland to John Shields his neighbor on John Street...


 
Address on Manuscript

Alexander 127 Alexander Street Rochester NY
James 127 Alexander Street Rochester NY
Willaim Reid(Brother in law) 127 Alexander Street Rochester NY

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The USA addresses

1910
Alexander 286 Reynolds St....
James 286 Reynolds St
Willaim Reid(Brother in law) 286 Reynolds

1911 or 1912
James 148 Bartlett St
Alexander 129 Maryland
William Reid 183 Main ST West

1913
James 147 Bartlett
Alexander 123 Maryland

1914
James 240 Jefferson Avenue
Alexander 1038

1915
James 240 Jefferson Avenue
Alexander 381 Sawyers...works @ 431 Sawyers

1916
James listed as married to Winnifred 626 South Avenue
Alexander listed as married to Catherine 35 Jefferson Avenue
1917
James Shields & Winnifred 6.5 Orleans St
Aleaxander & Catherine 35 Jefferson Avenue
1918
James Shields & Winnifred 37 Nellis Park
Aleaxander & Catherine 35 Jefferson Avenue

1919-20
James Shields & Winnifred 2 Harlow Park

1923
James Shields & Winnifred 486 Exchange St

1925-26
Alexander & Catherine 162 Caledonia St
James Shields & Winnifred 18 St Clair St

1927-28
James Shields & Winnifred 297 Reynolds St

1929
James Shields & Winnifred  163 Tremont St

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Great Great Grandfather

Peter Blackie/Bleakie Shields 1851-1902 ..married Ellen Nute Shields 1856-1913...Parents John and Elizabeth Nute..Tranent, Haddingtonshire
children

William J              1876
Janet                    1881
Elizabeth              1883
Alexander             11/21/1884-6/17/1969
James             1886-12/7/1961
Peter                     1887
Mary Jane             1891
George                  1893
Arthur                     1898



Known addresses of family in Scotland
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Blythswood, Glasgow St David, Lanarkshire 1891
89 John ST. in 1891
84 John ST. in 1901
457 Rutherglen Road in 1910
451 Rutherglen Road in 1910
In 1901 Scoland - 451 Rutherglen Road is occupaied by a William REID
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Great Great Great Grandfather

George Shiells 1828-September 1881..Unmarried to Janet Blackie 24th Oct 1830 -1867...Parents Alexander Blackie and Janet Henderson
children

Peter Blackie Shields 1851-1909ish ..Myles Farm..Tranent East Lothian.

George Shiells later married widow Jane Thompson( 1828-1870)in 1864 she died in Septemberish 1870.Newcastle T 10b 33 England 1870
children
James Shiells..1865-
George Shiells...1867-
John Shiells 4/1870-7/13/1870 Black Callerton, Newburn, Northumberland, England....**Possible reason for mothers death**

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Great Great Great Great Grandfather

John Shiells 1795-3/1878...married Mary Nisbet 10/13/1822 - Westruther, Berwickshire  parents George Nisbet and Martha Hart..
children

George SHIELS chr 6 Aug 1827 Chrichton MDL..Died 9/1881

Alison SHIELS chr 1 Jun 1823 Crichton MDL

Andrew SHIELS chr 16 May 1825-1884ish..Born in Crichton MDL...He later Married Isabella born 1841 in Winlaton Durham       
children
    *Son: John SHIELLS 1877,  b Newburn, Northumberland
    *Son  Andrew and/or  Andre SHIELLS 1883/1884  b Newburn, Northumberland
    *Dau: Mary Elizabeth. SHIELLS 1880   , b Newburn, Northumberland   

John SHIELL chr 6 Apr 1830 Crichton MDL
Elizabeth SHEILLS b abt 1835 Crichton MDL (not on IGI)
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 24 January 08 04:33 GMT (UK) »
The issue of the name of George's wife, given that he shows as a widower in the 1871 in Black Callerton.

Ambly has found a death entry for a Jane Shields in 1870 in the right district for Black Callerton. There is a also a submitted entry on IGI which shows a marriage for a George Shields and a Jane Thomson in 1869 in Black Callerton, Newburn.  Nothing else to verify this info at present.

Regards.

Monica



Marriages Jun 1864   
Shiells    George     Newcastle T 10b 33   
Thompson Jane    Newcastle T10b 33   



The two nephews above James and George in 1871 in Black Callerton, Newburn (sons of George?):

James Thomson 70, head, schoolmaster
Robert Thomson    29, son, tailor,
Ra James Shiells 6, grandson, b. Newburn
George Shiells 4, grandson, b. Newburn
Mary Ann Swond    60, housekeeper

1881: B Callerton Farm (2) , Black Callerton, Northumberland
Ref: RG11 /  Piece: 5099 /  Folio: 125 /  Pg 13
Head: Andrew SHIELLS 55, Farmer Of 363 Ac Employing 6 Men 5 Women  b Scotland   
Wife: Isabella SHIELLS  40 , Farmers Wife Winlaton, Durham       
Son: John SHIELLS 3,  b Newburn, Northumberland   
Dau: Mary E. SHIELLS 1   , b Newburn, Northumberland     
Brother: George SHIELLS , 53, Farm Serv 2 Assistant to Herd (Ag Lab Indoor) , b Scotland
Nephew: James SHIELLS 16   Scholar, b Newburn, Northumberland,
Nephew:  George SHIELLS   14, Scholar, Newburn, Northumberland



Emily Nute  Christening:  20 APR 1873      Thrapston, Northampton, England
Parents:  Mother:  Bessie Nute


1901: Blythswood, Glasgow St David, Lanarkshire
Ref: 644/7, ED 16. pg 7 - Household Schedule 35
Address: 89 John Street
Head: Bessie NUTE 49, Corporation Domestic, b England
Dau: Emily THOMSON 28, b England
Grand-Dau: Bessie N THOMSON 8, b Glasgow
Grandau: Jessie THOMSON 6, b Glasgow
Grandau: Jane H THOMSON 4, b Glasgow
GrandDau: Emily N THOMSON 2, b Glasgow
Plus, 2 Boarders: Mary WHITE 25 born Ayr, and Maggie HUGHES 44, b Glasgow

1901: Blythswood, Glasgow St Paul, Lanarkshire
Ref: Parish 644/7, ED 19, pg 4
Address: 84 John Street
Head: Peter SHIELDS 50, Wood Sawyer,  b Tranent, Haddingtonshire
Wife: Ellen Nute SHIELDS 45, b England
Son: WIlliam J SHIELDS 25, Law CLerk, b Glasgow
Son: Charles SHIELDS 24, Lip??  Assistant Agents (assistant) , New Kilpatrick, Invernesshire
Dau: Janet SHIELDS 20, Stationery & Gatecenick???  Asst , b Glasgow
Dau: Elizabeth SHIELDS 18, Ceyah??  Agents Assistant , b Glasgow
Son: Alexander SHIELDS 17, Telegraph Message, b Glasgow
Son: Peter SHIELDS 13, Scholar, b Glasgow
Son: James SHIELDS 11, Scholar, b Glasgow
Dau: Mary J. L. SHIELDS  10, Scholar, b Glasgow
Son: George SHIELDS 8, Scholar, b Glasgow
Son: Arthur J SHIELDS 3, b Glasgow
Neice: Elizabeth STEELE 49, General Servant Domestic, b Coatbridge Lanarkshire

Erk......
I just realised - Bessie NUTE married widower John GIBSON the 67 year old House Painter  in beginning of March 1904     .1901, before the Census was taken on 31st....

Here we go  - now I'm really getting bothered! I am ferverishly hoping - that some names and ages are getting a bit twisted , and Jason,  perhaps investing in the original image off SP will sort it out....

1901: Blythswood, Glasgow St David, Lanarkshire
Ref: 644/7, ED 16. pg 8 - Household Schedule 40
Address: 89 John Street
Head: John GIBSON 64, House Painter, b Greenock RNF
Wife: Ruth GIBSON 62, b Ireland
Dau: Elizabeth GIBSON 23, Envelope Maker , b Greenock RNF
Margaret BARNETT 8, b Glasgow RNF (sic - aka Glasgow in RNF ?)


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Wow there is some connections here.......A story once again....Too many twist and tangles for me to put together right now......Tomorrow my brain will figure it out

Jason
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