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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 13:26 GMT (UK) »
PS - I MUST MUST go to bed!  I got all overbewhelmed when I saw Jane H THOMSON age 4 in 1901! I thought "Yes!!  aka Jane Henderson  MENNIE, adopted by her half-brother's wife's sister!" Well stranger things have happened - not however, having a lassie born 1858 appearing as a 4 year old in 1901 though!! Oh, well! It was a fun thought while it lasted  ;D  ;D

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 13:37 GMT (UK) »
Oh Gosh, Goodnight - The NUTE GIBSON marriage is 1904. Grr.
So scotch the theories..so struck out above!

But - here we have - Bessie a Spinster in 1904, and in 1901 she has a daughter b 1873.......

Cheers and Goodnight!
AMBLY
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Oops - I missed the relationships in the household for Bessie in 1901 - I put her down as a worker for Thomsons not the mother  :P

Bessie probably was unmarried prior to her marriage in 1904...me thinks that's the way it was with Elizabeth Snr....

Monica  :)
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 13:44 GMT (UK) »
Entry on IGI, not sure if submitted or actual:

Emily Nute  Christening:  20 APR 1873      Thrapston, Northampton, England
Parents:  Mother:  Bessie Nute
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 13:48 GMT (UK) »
One for the road......

SNAP Monica!

IGI:
Emily NUTE chr 20 pril 1873, Thrapston Northamptonshire
Mother: Bessie NUTE
No father listed

It's regsitered on FREEBMD too.....
June Qtr 1873

Northamptonshire - rings a bell, I saw something the other day in passing.... can't remember...

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AMBLY  8) zzzz

PS Jason - are you keeping up  ;D
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Enjoy your rest Ambly ~ well deserved  ;)
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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 17:43 GMT (UK) »
You peeps are great............

I put down the wrong link for the bankruptcy which I cant find again...I will....I also found a will of John Shiels last night but cant seem to find that one either.........I will.......My brain and eyes turned to mush last night..

I still havent read through all the post to put this all together....

Thank You in advance and afterwards........

Jason Shields....
Schiells/Shiells/Shiels/Shields
Berwickshire/Lothian/Edinburgh/
NewCastle/Northumberland/Crichton
Nute/Nisbet/Magoffin/Phillips

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Looks like the link was wrong.....Appears to be a James Shiels a farmer in Ensay who had a brother Alexander...

June 29th 1837

http://shrinkalink.com/21079

I cant find the link on the other article...might have been Myles farm....But I was tired last night and things were getting blurry

I believe I read James Shields lost the farm and pointed the finger at  his brother Alexander for selling Peaches and potates in another town and not paying James the money.....James seems to be trying to get the money needed and extra time to save the farm because of Alexanders action but is denied..

Thanks

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Berwickshire/Lothian/Edinburgh/
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Nute/Nisbet/Magoffin/Phillips

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Re: Shields Family Haddington Lothian Pre 1851
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Shame, that would have been a great story to have in the Family annals!

SHIELLS was a fairly prominent name in East and Mid-Lothian - no doubt a lot of them are related (you could add a One name study to your bow!)

But these look like yours......

IGI:
John SHIELL and Mary NISBET, dau of John  George NISBET
married in extracted records:
13 OCT 1822  Westruther, Berwickshire and 13 Oct 1822 Channelkirk, Berwick *


Children: (all on IGI except for Elizabeth?)
Alison SHIELS chr 1 Jun 1823 Crichton MDL
Andrew SHIELS chr 16 May 1825 Crichton MDL
George SHIELS chr 6 Aug 1827 Chrichton MDL
John SHIELL chr 6 Apr 1830 Crichton MDL
Elizabeth SHEILLS b abt 1835 Crichton MDL (not on IGI)

Census (from FREECEN):
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1841: Myles Farm, Tranent,East Lothian
parish 722, ED 11 Folio 8, pg 5
John SHEILLS 45, Farmer - N
Alison SHEILLS 15, - N
Andrew SHEILLS 15, - N
Elizabeth SHEILLS 6, - N
Joan CURRIE 20, F. S. - Y
Mary CARMICHAEL 15, F.S. - Y

Missing from 1841 are sons George age abt 13, and John age abt 11
Looks like them here, possibly with family members:

1841: Longfaugh Mains , Crichton , Midlothian
Parish 681, ED 4, Folio 4, pg 1
George SHIELS 13 - Y
John SHIELS 11 - Y
Geo SUDESORF 20, Ag Lab - Y
James HUNTER 25, Ag Lab - N
Mary CLEUGH 74, Ind - N
Marg't BATHGATE 25 F.S. - N
This is the order  it has been transcribed on FREECEN - I wonder about the position of Mary CLEUGH, as it looks to me as if she should be the "header" person of the house?

Not finding Any of them in 1861 (I just discovered FREECEN has 100% of East Lothian Census on line too, as well as same for 1841 and 1851).

In 1871, Farm of Myles is apparently owned by a James STENHOUSE age 36, Farmer Employing 13 men 1 Boy and  116 Women

[116 Women !?]

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AMBLY

Note on Banns
** (2 entries are because Banns were called in both the parish of the bride and the groom. Sometimes you will find each has a different date.  Usually the later dates will be where the actual marriage was eventually recorded. Banns - notice of intent to marry,  were recorded in the registers - and were read out:  I think for 3 consecutive Sundays or something....This gave the Parishioners a chance to speak up  with information as to why the marriage should not be permitted to take place....When the actual marriage took place (traditionally in the bride's Parish)  the record was added to accordingly. Sometimes, a couple did not go ahead with marriage - it was called off for various reasons, but the Parish record of the banns remained 'on the books'.  So when sometimes one finds a marriage on the IGI , yet cannot find the supposed couple or any children - it could be for that reason......

.....I do recall reading about such a case -  where it was eventually discovered the bride to be found out (or someone did!) that her intended had already gotten another lassie withchild, and in the end he was made to marry the pregnant girl....

Another thing is, a couple who have the same address on a marriage cert - it doesn't mean they were necessarily 'living together' before they married - it may mean that, to avoid fuss and bother they listed themselves as being of the same Parish to avoid have to have Banns recorded and read out in 2 seperate parishes.
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"Now that we're all here, I'm not sure if we're all there...."

 Entre los individuos, como entre las naciones, el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz
 Among individuals, as among nations, respect for the rights of others is peace
    ~Benito Juarez (1806-1872)