Agnus Darling and Alexander Forsyth

[littleclaire]

I've just found them on the 1851. Tried another website.......... came up straight away. Now I know where you got Norham from!!

Thanks

Claire

[Mofamily]

Hi

Where Where!  I couldn't find them on the 1851 Census.  I came up with Norham as a guess as there was a birth for an Alexander Forsyth, Norham, Durham.  I didn't think Norham was Durham so googled it and found it was Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, but I haven't got any information for 1851 census.  Please share.

Fact - My g g grandmother was Agnes Bullen (nee Forsyth) b: 1855 Washington married to George Bullen b: 1853 Stow Bedon, Norfolk (apparently related to Ann Boleyn, but that's another post). 

Fiction - the family story was that Agnes Bullen's mother Agnes was Grace Horsley Darling's sister.  I don't think Grace Darling had a sister called Agnes and looking on the census discovered her mother was Eleanor (? Hayes) and her father Henry Forsyth.  (Grace didn't have a sister called Eleanor anyway).

  Can't fit anything else on this reply will do a second.

[Mofamily]

back again,

so I assumed that this Agnes b ? 1803 Lumsden, Berwickshire was possibly a Darling.  Not only that but my grandmother's brother was called Alexander Forsyth for his Christian names.  It just all made sense.

My mother (the Forsyth's were my father's family but he passed away two years ago) says that in the Grace Darling museum in Bamburgh there is mention of the Forsyths, but I don't see any relation to Grace Darling at all.  Can you?

Mofamily

[littleclaire]

Hello

I found them in Oxclose, Washington in 1851 on Find my past - had previously looked on ancestry for hours and found nothing.

Has Alexander Forsyth as a Colliery Labourer 49 born Norham, Durham
Agnes is born Merrington?, Northumberland
Henry, William, Alexander, Robert and Agnes are all there. It says Henry and William were born in Merrington aswell........

If you look on Genuki http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Norham/ it says that Norham was at one time a detached portion of the County of Durham. I don't know what that means, but I guess Durham once had bits and pieces everywhere?

I have ordered Robert's birth cert so hopefully will be able to solve the mystery of Agnus' maiden name.

I think we are definitely related though so that's nice 

Claire

[Mofamily]

Hi

Thanks, that's excellent.   

Please keep in touch with any more news and if I find anything more you will be the first to know.

I do have Robert married to Elizabeth Beaney on my tree, but I also have Alexander married to a Mary Beany is this right and were they related?

I wonder where Merrington is? 

I also note from your previous posts that you have Williamsons in your family.  Me too.

They are the Silksworth/Tunstall/Ryhope Williamsons.  Any connection?

My direct line is William Williamson b: 1836, Ralph Williamson b: 1864, Henry Childs Williamson b: 1902

[littleclaire]

Hello

I got the birth cert yesterday and it confirms Agnus Forsyth's maiden name as Darling. At the time of Robert's birth the lived in Lumley Park, White House.

Elizabeth and Mary Beaney were sisters.

My Williamson's originate from Low Fell, Gateshead. They ended up in Shiney Row........

So.... the Darling search goes on! I'm off to look for her now.

Claire

[JenB]

If you look on Genuki http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Norham/ it says that Norham was at one time a detached portion of the County of Durham. I don't know what that means, but I guess Durham once had bits and pieces everywhere?

May I intrude and explain that until the mid-1840's there were three areas of what is now Northumberland which were under the jurisdiction of County Durham?

They were called 'Islandshire' (around Tweedmouth), 'Bedlingtonshire' and 'Norhamshire'. They formed 'islands' of County Durham within Northumberland.

For the purposes of the 1841 census and Civil Registration they were part of County Durham.

Someone born and living in these areas in 1841 would be shown as born 'in county', i.e. in County Durham. Someone living there but born elsewhere would be shown as 'not born in county' i.e. not born in County Durham.

Therefore one needs to be careful in interpreting the 1841 census data for these areas.

They were integrated in Northumberland in 1844.

Hope this helps.

Jennifer

[littleclaire]

Thanks Jennifer that's really useful information.

Thank you for your help 

Claire

[Mofamily]

Hello

I got the birth cert yesterday and it confirms Agnus Forsyth's maiden name as Darling. At the time of Robert's birth the lived in Lumley Park, White House.

Elizabeth and Mary Beaney were sisters.

My Williamson's originate from Low Fell, Gateshead. They ended up in Shiney Row........

So.... the Darling search goes on! I'm off to look for her now.

Claire

That's fantastic news.  I just knew it.

I thought Mary and Elizabeth Beaney must be sisters.

On one of the census entries I came across it says that Alexander was born Lumley Park, White House.  I wonder what that is?

You wouldn't read about it - my Williamson family ended up in Shiney Row too.  They originally start on my family tree with Ralph and his brothers Thomas and Jacob about 1803 born in Jarrow and Murton Row.  Working in West Holywell Colliery and their children in Earsden eventually moving to Ryhope, Tunstall/Silksworth and finally Shiney Row.

How far does your Williamson tree go back and anyone I know.

It would be very odd to have two family connections.

Keep in touch

Mo