R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes

[millymcb]

Thanks Den - will keep you posted

 

[cezza]

Hi!

My  gx3 grandfather Herbert Wallwork (b. 1869 Kearsley, Lancs d. 1948 Chesterfield, Derbys) was apparently a member of the Chesterfield (Derbyshire) Order of the Buffaloes. Any information on him (if possible) would be gratefully recieved

Thankyou
Cezza
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[juliebenny]

Hi Whittenbury

I've just came across my gguncles Buffaloe medals, sash ets.  He was a member of Collingwood No. 73 (in Victoria, Australia) r u in the UK?  If not his name was Harry Parnell & got to KOM, I think it's 3rd decred in 1937 (the year he died), and I have a medal that says "Founder" as well.  If you could point me in the right direction of who may have some infor on that lodge I'll be extremely grateful. 

Thanks
Julie

[whittenbury]

Hi!

My  gx3 grandfather Herbert Wallwork (b. 1869 Kearsley, Lancs d. 1948 Chesterfield, Derbys) was apparently a member of the Chesterfield (Derbyshire) Order of the Buffaloes. Any information on him (if possible) would be gratefully recieved

Thankyou
Cezza
x

Cezza
Please forgive the lateness of this reply (I have not been on for a while)
This kind of request is pure pot luck if there any surviving records
What I would sugest is write to the P G Secretary of Chesterfield & Mansfield.
Bro R I Charlton 14 Ridge Close Sutton in Ashfield Notts NG17 2DF.
They do not have a website which usually makes life a lot easier .
Den

[whittenbury]

Hi Whittenbury

I've just came across my gguncles Buffaloe medals, sash ets.  He was a member of Collingwood No. 73 (in Victoria, Australia) r u in the UK?  If not his name was Harry Parnell & got to KOM, I think it's 3rd decred in 1937 (the year he died), and I have a medal that says "Founder" as well.  If you could point me in the right direction of who may have some infor on that lodge I'll be extremely grateful. 

Thanks
Julie

Hi Julie
I am sorry but I dont have much on the Australian lodges.
I think your best start would be http://home.alphalink.com.au/~oldshep/lodgemeets.htm
Their are addresses on there that should be able to point you in the right direction!
The fact that he was a founder member of a lodge might mean their are a few more details to be found.
As I have said before their are not that many records kept and unless people have transcribed the minute books etc, even then you may only find little snippets of information  (buy hey this is Genealogy anything s good  )
sorry for the late reply
Den

[scrimnet]

Hello Den

Just come across this thread...I don't normally stray far from the Armed Forces board!

Apparently my grandfather was a "big noise" in the Wood Green area ( North London) for the Buffs in the 1920s/30s/early 40s...

There was a story that his regalia was pawned on the monday and then secured back on the friday!

I know he drank at the original "Three Jolly Butchers" on Jolly Butcher Hill in Wood Green...

I did try and contact the Buffs  a few years ago, but heard nothing in return 

Any pointers as to whom I should contact next pse?

[whittenbury]

Hi Scrimnet
Not having much luck finding the lodge in Wood Green
I have checked Grand Middlesex Banner 1930
Grand lodge of England 1940
No lodges in Wood Green
I may be able to get a check on Grand Lodge England 1920 (after the weekend)
My guess he was in the Grand Executive Banner as they did have lodges in that part of town. The only problem is all their records were destroyed in a fire at Manor House years ago 
I do have a few names of brothers that were founder members of lodges (but not many)
For him to pawn his jewels (brothers still use that excuse when they forget to bring their jewels to a lodge  ) My guess is they were Grand Exec because if he was high up he would have been a knight & the jewel is worth a few bob, they see on ebay for over hundred pound now!
I will attach a picture of mine so you can see what I mean (its the large cross one)
I will keep digging for you!
What was his name?
Den

[scrimnet]

He was William Edward Victor Austin

Born Newton Abbott ?1902

Died Wood Green (?Edmonton) March 1945

He was a dyer and cleaner as his father and grandfather had been before him in Northampton

[whittenbury]

Hi Scrimnet
I have now got a copy of the 1920 directory for GLE
Under the Metropolitan district of Grand Lodge
402 Ye Mitre Lodge met at the Jolly Butchers, Wood Green London N22.
The next directory I have is for 1936 but has the
402 Ye Mitre in Tottenham, under the control of the London Central Province
as far as I am aware the lodge closed before 1966 so I doubt if any records survive 
I am still trying leads for the GEB & will let you know if anything comes up
Den