R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes

[whittenbury]

If anybody wants to know a litte bit more about the order go to
http://www.westherts.net/bugle.html
download the September issue 5 of the BuGLE A journal that I put together this tells a little more about the order.
you can download any issue's you want if your intrested.
Den

[whittenbury]

Re James Bond - See earlier today.
I have attached a photo of him in his RAOB regalia.  The bottom logo on the apron says "Order of Merit" whilst the small one at the top of the apron says " "K M O" not sure which is the correct order.
The jewel on the chain (Middle bottom) says RAOB
I believe the photo could have been taken in about 1917 & was taken by a photographer in Barry, South Wales. He lived in Barry or Cadoxton near Cardiff.
I also have a small wooden box containing a seal "B" with wax pieces & on the lid is the same logo as on the top of the apron "K M O" . Around the logo on the box is "Sir J Bond".
Hope you can shed some light on this ancestor.
Thanks for your help so far.
John

Hi John still not worked out the other 2 jewles but they are all Grand Lodge of England!
I can only find two lodges in Barry in 1920 (i dont have an older one)
2488 Henry Gethin Lodge Lewis Park hotel Barry Friday's
2869 Victory Lodge Castle Hotel Barry Dock Monday's
you might be able to find a bit more from Grand Lodge (GLE) address earlier
not sure what the box is
if you can read RAOB on the collar I cant, could you try a better pic just of the jewels even
den

[whittenbury]

Mary
The only Directory I have for GMB, Grand Middlesex Banner is 1930 which does fit in his time.
219 Electric lodge The King and Queen Cleveland St W1 Wednesday's
I dont know if any records are avalible for GMB (most of the smaler Banners dont have old records)
if you want to know what sort of Jewels he Might have had I posted a Picture of a GMB Buffalo funeral.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,273013.0.html
sorry I cant help that much
Den
To anyone that knows someone in the buffs its always worth searching their name on Ebay as loads of jewels come up every week.
den

[MaryA]

I looked up Cleveland Street on streetmap and it runs parallel to Tottenham Court Road and so within spitting distance almost from the Middlesex Hospital where he worked, so this seems very likely.

Unfortunately after he and mum married and a few years after this he returned to Liverpool and so far as I'm aware he didn't continue his membership up here, which seems a shame, so I shouldn't think he had any jewels.

Thanks for your help and interest Den,  it's given me a bit of insight into my dad that I never knew.

Mary

[Burto]

Hi Burto
If you tell me the bits on the certificate I will help a bit more.
you dont need to copy every thing just the basics esp the handwritten stuff
Den

Hi thanks for all the information...I don't have the certificate to hand as it's at my parents but will be there on Friday so I'll make some notes!
I would like to frame it. Did the groups meet in pubs then? My Granddad's Dad owned a pub! Saying that my Grandma was a singer and performed for the troops in the war as well as working on stage at the Royal Variety etc. and worked in a theatre-is there a link? Granddad never performed.

[whittenbury]

Personly I think the link to the theartre is a myth.
most lodges did and still meet in pubs, the most probable reason for him joining is lodges encouraged the landlord into joining the order, one reason is he would enjoy the company and not just decide he wanted the room for something else. He might also have been the Lodge City Waiter, as he would not have to que at the bar
If you know what pub it was & what year I might be able to work out what lodge
Den

[Burto]

Hi Whittenbury,
Just sent you a personal message.

[JPB]

Hi Den
I have tried to get a close up of the jewels but it does not make it any clearer. Looking closely at the photograph, the bottom jewel on the chain (not the two below) definitely has an R slanted to the left & an O slanted to the right & what looks like an A in the middle.
Not sure if this helps. I will try the GLE.
Thanks
John

[whittenbury]

Hi John
Yes that one is RAOB
The far right is his Knights Jewel
I cant match the other two
Sorry I cant be much help But I will keep searching
Den