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Draper, Elliott and Taylor - fairground folk at Barnet Fair
« on: Thursday 17 January 08 13:34 GMT (UK) »
Anyone researching Drapers out there - either Gypsies or Fairground people? They tended to travel in Herts/Beds/Bucks.

I've a postcard of Barnet Fair c 1905 showing three coconut shies, one with a banner saying Draper, another for Taylor and another for Elliott, side by side. Does anyone know what their first names might be?

Happy to share my Draper information too.

Thanks.
Sharon
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Taylor - East Anglia
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Re: Draper, Elliott and Taylor - fairground folk at Barnet Fair
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 January 08 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi there Sharon,
Just seen your message about Barnet Fair.
I think the Elliott name is my Great Grandfather Solomon Elliott who ran a Boxing Booth.

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Re: Draper, Elliott and Taylor - fairground folk at Barnet Fair
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 January 08 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - that's great.

Sharon
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Taylor - East Anglia
Draper
Hope
Shaw
Gray
Boswell
Lovell
Robinson
Chilcott
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"Royal Epping Forest Gypsies": ball-giving group
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Re: Draper, Elliott and Taylor - fairground folk at Barnet Fair
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 21:44 GMT (UK) »
hi ya.i am related to joe taylor who had the excelsoir boxing booth.also john birch who also boxed in the booths but had a round about with his wife emma/nee ayres.i am also related to joe beckett boxer whoise mother was charlotte birch but also ran the beckett booth.any interest to you?love cathayb
birchs taylors penfold orchard hughes all romany gypsies in the west country


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Re: Draper, Elliott and Taylor - fairground folk at Barnet Fair
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 January 08 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Cathayb.

What part of the country did your Joe Taylor travel in?

Sharon
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Taylor - East Anglia
Draper
Hope
Shaw
Gray
Boswell
Lovell
Robinson
Chilcott
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"Royal Epping Forest Gypsies": ball-giving group
"Borrow's Gypsies": the people that the novelist George Borrow (1803-1881) knew and wrote about

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Re: Draper, Elliott and Taylor - fairground folk at Barnet Fair
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 January 08 15:37 GMT (UK) »
are you sharon from rtfhs?if so i am cathayb!!joe taylor covered all the fairs up and down the country.and i have just realised i posted the wrong name.i have a joe taylor but it was ronnie taylor who owned the excelsoir boxing booth!!his brother tex also worked with him early on but after a bad experience with a lady in america he had to give up fighting!tex s real name was jimmy taylor,he took the name tex when he went to america.ronnie has quite a few relatives in gloucester and devon and cornwall.he was a frquent visitor to nottingham goosey fair.i have got to look at my trees and certs tonite but hope to post new mail re boxers on rfhs email site tomorrow.hope that helps.we also have frankums becketts and john birch fair fighters in our line although we are predominately romanies with all the usual gypsy trades.our taylors link to the penfolds and ronnie inherited his booth from his great grandad a bare knuckle fighter in 1861.ronnie took over in 1936.love cathay
birchs taylors penfold orchard hughes all romany gypsies in the west country

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Re: Draper, Elliott and Taylor - fairground folk at Barnet Fair
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 January 08 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cathayb - yes I'm Sharon from the RTFHS. Good to see you here. And look forward to reading more about your boxing folk.

Sharon
Smith - East Anglia & Lancashire
Taylor - East Anglia
Draper
Hope
Shaw
Gray
Boswell
Lovell
Robinson
Chilcott
All Blackpool Gypsies
"Royal Epping Forest Gypsies": ball-giving group
"Borrow's Gypsies": the people that the novelist George Borrow (1803-1881) knew and wrote about

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Re: Draper, Elliott and Taylor - fairground folk at Barnet Fair
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 June 08 18:22 BST (UK) »
My great great granny was Matilda Elliott, a Romany lady.  She was born 1845 in Sussex and married Samson Roberts.  Do you have her within your Elliott's?
Casaubon (Geneva, London), Daulinge, Berners, McMullen (Nottingham), Tabb (Leics), Mycock (Derbys & Staffs), Gilbert (Notts), Price (s Wales), Krilovs/similar, gypsy Roberts, gypsy Clark, Bexell (Sussex), gypsy Elliott, Raven, Neligan (Co Kerry), Rymer, Newton (Hull).

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Re: Draper, Elliott and Taylor - fairground folk at Barnet Fair
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 June 08 18:25 BST (UK) »
Good to hear from you.

My folk are the Drapers rather than the Elliots - but I think the ones at Barnet Fair might have been Essex/Hertfordshire people rather than Sussex. But you never know...

Thanks.

Sharon
Smith - East Anglia & Lancashire
Taylor - East Anglia
Draper
Hope
Shaw
Gray
Boswell
Lovell
Robinson
Chilcott
All Blackpool Gypsies
"Royal Epping Forest Gypsies": ball-giving group
"Borrow's Gypsies": the people that the novelist George Borrow (1803-1881) knew and wrote about