Burnham - missing burials

[jillruss]

Can anyone with local knowledge suggest where else I can look for some burials which should be in Burnham - but aren't? It's all very frustrating! 

I've had name searches done by Bucks FHS and they don't show up even though Burnham burials seem to have full coverage. I know from wills that these people lived in Burnham and I have the dates of the wills - but still nothing, even allowing for probate sometimes taking a few years.

The surnames in question are Dawson and Bayley and we're talking 1700s. Any ideas?

Jill

[dacorum-girl]

Hi
I've got a few Burnham Bayleys on my family tree. The earliest one that I have any interest in is:-

Thomas BAYLEY
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Birth:   abt 1716, Britwell Farm, Burnham, Bucks
Chr:   St Peter's, Burnham, Bucks
Death:   Feb 1762, Britwell Farm, Burnham, Bucks
Burial:   9 Feb 1762, St Peter's, Burnham, Bucks

Thomas was the son of Thomas & Margaret Bayley of Britwell Farm in Burnham.

Spouse:   Sarah GOLDWIN
Chr:   14 Aug 1730, St Peter's, Burnham, Bucks
Father:   Thomas GOLDWIN (chd. 1698-1776)
Mother:   Elizabeth (~1702-brd. 1764)
Marr:   29 Sep 1755, St Peter's, Burnham, Bucks

Children:   Thomas (chd. 1756-1787)
   Margaret (Died as Infant) (chd. 1758-brd. 1758)
   Elizabeth (1760-)
My interest is because I descend from the Gouldwin/Goldwin family.
Sorry I can't fill you in on any burials.
However the freaky thing is that I also descend directly from a family of Dawsons who came from Bray in Berkshire but lived Burnham. The Dawson details are below. Again suffering from the lack of burial references but with any luck the details from one of these families will be useful or at least confirm what you have.

Here's hoping.
(1) 1 Henry DAWSON
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In 1720 both Henry and Elizabeth were stated as being of Bray.

Spouse:   Elizabeth ROUNDE
Marr:   20 Apr 1720, St Benet's, Pauls Wharf, City of London

Children:   Thomas (chd. 1721-~1771)
   Elizabeth (chd. 1722-~1781)
   Susanna (~1725-)

(2) 1.1 Thomas DAWSON
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Chr:   24 Mar 1721, St Michael's, Bray, Berkshire
Death:   abt 1771, Burnham Abbey Farm, Burnham, Buckinghamshire

Thomas had lands at Burnham Abbey in Burnham which he left to his sister Elizabeth and brother-in-law, Edmund Winder.

Spouse:   Mary LUDLOW
Marr:   27 Apr 1757, St Peter's, Burnham, Buckinghamshire

Children:   Ann (chd. 1757-)
   Elizabeth (chd. 1759-)

(2) 1.2 Elizabeth DAWSON (my 6xGt Grandmother)
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Chr:   23 Oct 1722, St Michael's, Bray, Berkshire
Death:   abt 1781, Burnham Abbey Farm, Burnham, Buckinghamshire

Spouse:   Edmond WINDER
Chr:   7 Dec 1718, St Michael's, Bray, Berkshire
Death:   West Oakley, Bray, Berkshire
Father:   Humphrey WINDER (chd. 1696-1739)
Mother:   Ann (-brd. 1740)
Marr:   4 Aug 1749, St George's Chapel, Mayfair, Middlesex

Children:   John (Died as Infant) (chd. 1751-<1781)
   Ann (chd. 1753-brd. 1832)
   William (Died childless) (chd. 1756-brd. ~1820)
   Edmond (chd. 1757-brd. 1828)
   Richard (Died as Infant) (chd. 1759-brd. 1759)
   Richard (Died as Infant) (chd. 1760-brd. 1761)
   Elizabeth (chd. 1762-brd. 1790)
   James (Died as Infant) (chd. 1765-brd. 1765)

[jillruss]

Hi dacorum girl,

This is really interesting - and, as you said, a bit freaky! 

The Thomas Bayley baptised 1716 is the brother of Mary (1713) who is my greatx6 grandmother - so we have their parents Thomas and Margaret in common.

Have you got their marriage? Thomas Bayley married Margret Woodwell (of Bray) in Cookham 4 July 1708.

I've just been in touch with another Bayley researcher via the FHS and we've managed to share a few more bits of info. I suppose you're aware that Sarah Bayley(Goldwin) married again to Thomas Hoare?

As for the Dawsons - this might explain why I can't find hide nor hair of them before about mid 1600s! If they originate in Bray - I'm pretty sure Bray PRs haven't survived before then.



To get even spookier, I think we're connected through the Dawsons as well!! My Mary Bayley married John Dawson in Burnham in 1740. Doo doo doo doo!!!(spooky music!!!  ) but I also think I might have got a bit muddled somewhere along the line, so bear with me... I'm actually beginning to wonder if I've mixed 2 families up. perhaps you can point me in the right direction??

I thought your Thomas and Elizabeth were the siblings of my John Dawson (1711 Chipstead, Surrey) s/o John and Ann (nee Messenger) who married in Burnham in 1710 and were both from Burnham.

I had a few name seaches done by Bucks FHS and there were no Dawson baptisms in Burnham between 1702 and 1742 and I found this family in Chipstead which is not far off.

There is also a will left by John snr (of Burnham) in 1766 in which he left money to the children of his deceased son John - and names all the children baptised in Chipstead. He also left £50 each to his surviving daughters: Elizabeth Wendover (I've transcribed it as Wendover, but ? Wendover/Winder?) and Susannah Mason.

I'm not sure what's happened - have I muddled 2 families together. What do you think?

Jill

[dacorum-girl]

What a star  - no you are not muddled, the Dawson family assumption was mine. I couldn't find Elizabeth & Thomas Dawson in Burnham, but there was an Elizabeth and Thomas Dawson of the right age baptised in Bray.
As Edmund Winder - Elizabeth's husband came from Bray, and because he was the executor to Thomas Dawson's will, I assumed that the families were close and had associated because they had both come to Burnham from Bray.
However my Elizabeth's married name was WINDER, so it looks like she is the daughter mentioned in the will of your John.
Can we swap email addresses as we appear to be related, at least once (the Dawson's are on my Mum's side & the Goldwins are on my Dad's).
 

[jillruss]

Hi,

I'll send you my email address in a Personal message.

Jill

[Skull]

I don't know if you've paid a visit to the graveyard at St Peter's at Burnham, but there are some Dawsons and Bayleys pushing up the daisies there. I noticed a few of them when I was searching for Bucklands.

I can't recall which ones they were, but maybe you know about these ones already.

Skull

[dacorum-girl]

Yes indeed there are loads of Dawsons, Bayleys and Goldwins pushing up the daisies at St Peters. 
I've acutally looked at the PR and the burials are in the main there, they just hadn't been collated by the Bucks FHS.
However Burnham does seem to be the centre of all things genealogical at the moment as I've justed gone through the registers for  the 3rd time, with my families of interesting being:
Ives, Goldwin, Dawson, Messenger, Style and Mason.
Very complicated as  I have paternal and maternal lines there intermarried - what fun 

[Lesanne]

  Hiya,

Have a will dated 1665... from Burnham.
One of my Norris searches... 

It has John Goldwin and 3 children to have a pound a year...  ..?Venus? Goldwin (a wit)

Other names ;- Richard and Elizabeth Osborne, Robert and Mary Heycraft.

Can you shed any light on these people?

Thnx Lesanne.

[dacorum-girl]

Hi Lesanne
John Gouldwin and Venice were husband and wife. He died in October 1689 and left a will summarised as follows:-
A Summary of the Will of John Goldwin of Burnham, tailor
Ref: D/A/we 41/39
Dated 5th September 1685
Proved 19th May 1690 by Venace Goldwin, widow, sole executrix
Wife: Venace Goldwin
Son: John Goldwin
Daughter: Mary Devenshier
Son: Samuel Goldwin
Son: Henry Goldwin

I am interested to know more about them in the will, as I haven't been able to fit them in with my Gouldwins yet, though I am confident that they are related.

Bye for now
Dacorum Girl