John GOODWIN

[johnP-bedford]

There is a baptism at Bedford St Cuthberts of Ann Prigmore on 15 May 1796 daughter of Dickins & Rebecca Prigmore. I noticed other children of that couple baptised 1789 - 1800.   

Dickins Prigmore married Rebecca Elliot by licence at Bedford St Cuthberts on Feb 2 1783. He was from St Marys Bedford, - so most likely isn't linked to the Turvey Prigmores.  On the marriage licence index he is described as being over 21 & 'a drummer in the Bedford Militia', Rebecca was from Biddenham, & yeoman John Lavender of Biddenbham stood as surety.

[bedfordshire boy]

That 1774 burial is a bit odd.

"infant" usually refers to a baby, not an 8 year old

But I am struggling to come up with an explanation

David

[maisiemiller]

Thanks all

That is a lot of information to get my head round but Iam very grateful.  I will have to sit down and work it out.  That death is a bit strange I must admit

Maisie

[maisiemiller]

Right, these are my views,although they might not make sense.

Nathan Goodwin Sarah Berry marriage 12 sept 1736 Bedford St Paul is ok, but still no proof of him being Johns father as I cant find him in the IGI.

Baptism of Frances Woodroffe is fine with parents Richard and Ann sounds ok too.

Dickens Prigmore married Rebecca Elliott but you said they were probably not related to the Turvey Prigmores.  When I looked through my files, I found a Thomas Prigmore of Turvey married a Mary Dickens 24 April 1743 with a son Dickens born 1757.  The reason I think they are his parents is the name Dickens which is unusual but also his mothers maiden name. 

What do you think?

Maisie

[johnP-bedford]

That 1774 burial is a bit odd.

"infant" usually refers to a baby, not an 8 year old

But I am struggling to come up with an explanation

David

unless the one that was buried was really Thomas ? chr 1773

Is the burial on the NBI ?

[bedfordshire boy]

Yes, John, and that says John as well (when I checked the NBI initially I ignored that one because of the infant description) so there was no difference between the parish register and the BT. I had also wondered if the PR might be in error, but it would take a lot of work to see if there is any subsequent record of Thomas, and even if there wasn't it doesn't prove the PR is in error. There was also a Richard Golden/Gooding and Sarah who baptised two children in 1760 and 1767, and were married in Kempston on 11 Oct 1759 - there's plenty of room for an unbaptised John in between the the children.

Maisie - the Nathan/Sarah (Berry) couple would have been John's grandparents. The older one was buried at Wootton on 21 June 1776, and his son at Kemspton on 26 Apr 1803 - John had found the Kempston burial.

David

[johnP-bedford]

Morning,  I have someone's tree from Genes Reunited with that Dickens Prigmore's family on it. I've just sent them a message to see if they know what became of him. But as David says some peoples trees are not fully accurate & must be checked out.

There are 2 other Dickins Prigmores in that tree from other family members, one of which born 1800 turned up in Felmersham & is specifically mentioned in Edward Arpin's diary.

[johnP-bedford]

Interesting to note in that same GrU tree & verified on IGI, there is a marriage of James Wooding *  to Ann Prigmore on 13 SEP 1784 at  Turvey, Bedford. Ann chr 20 Feb 1763 was daughter of Thomas Prigmore & Mary Dickins (the same pair who had Dickens Prigmore).     

* most likely the right name - as I've seen loads of Wooding/Wooden names on the IGI at Turvey. 

[bedfordshire boy]

Funny you should mention the Woodings John. I have two in my tree, both married in Toseland Hunts so possibly sisters, both born Turvey but no trace of a baptism for either of them. Posthuma (odd name) b 1821 and Mary b 1816. But the IGI has no end of Turvey Woodings.

Neither are direct line so I've not lost any sleep over not finding their baptisms.

David