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Re: help identifying uniform in photo
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 27 January 08 21:35 GMT (UK) »
I don't think the photo shows the uniform of the Royal Irish Rifles or any other specifically Irish regiment I'm afraid, based on facing colours.  :-\
In the photo, the collar is a light colour (probably white? but maybe yellow, buff or something else light).

However, the facing colours of Irish regiments at the time:
Royal Irish Regiment - dark blue
Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - dark blue
Royal Irish Rifles - dark green (rifle green?)
Royal Irish Fusiliers - dark blue
Connaught Rangers - green
Leinster Regiment - blue
Royal Munster Fusiliers - dark blue
Royal Dublin Fusiliers - green



Were these the colours in 1880's

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Re: help identifying uniform in photo
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 January 08 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Why do you think this is not an irish regiment???

My relatives arounf the 1880's (assuming this is a photo of one of them) would have been based in lurgan Co armagh  or Belfast more likely Belfast).
 
I also think that the lapel badge looks a bit harp shaped.  but hard to tell.

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Re: help identifying uniform in photo
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 January 08 21:57 GMT (UK) »
maybe this inverted image is easier to identify shape of lapel badge?
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Re: help identifying uniform in photo
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Vito,
Those are the facing colours in the whole of the era you're interested in.
http://uk.geocities.com/neil182@btinternet.com/facingcolours.htm

I agree with scrimnet, it's just as likely to be the uniform of an English regiment that happened to be in Ireland at the time (as of course many were).

I can't see enough of the lapel badge to recognise much at all sadly.
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Re: help identifying uniform in photo
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Many regts had white/ buff facings at the time....



Many men joined the regt that was there at the time...I actually saw a jug  in an antique shop yesterday commemorating a chap born in Wexford, but he had joined the 58th Regt...2nd Northamptons.

Also as  Neil has pointed out, the facings don't actually match any Irish regts...
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Re: help identifying uniform in photo
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:22 GMT (UK) »
This is becoming more of a mystery than I imagined.  ??? ??? ??? ???

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Re: help identifying uniform in photo
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Vito,
Those are the facing colours in the whole of the era you're interested in.
http://uk.geocities.com/neil182@btinternet.com/facingcolours.htm

I agree with scrimnet, it's just as likely to be the uniform of an English regiment that happened to be in Ireland at the time (as of course many were).

I can't see enough of the lapel badge to recognise much at all sadly.

Ireland was...and still is...a "home" posting and as such would have had most regiments passing through at some time...

Most soldiers didn't always join the "local" regt....My great uncle went from the Northamptonshire/Buckinghamshire border to Taunton to join the Somerset Light Infantry!
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Re: help identifying uniform in photo
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:37 GMT (UK) »
The East Yorkshire Regt were in islandbridge barracks in 1888?

If this is a relative of mine and as it was found in a collection of my grandas I am assuming he is either related to my granda or granny. Then to my knowledge I would have had no relatives outside ireland. So it is possible he joined a regiment based near either belfast or lurgan and then moved with the regiment to lurgan?? I am assuming to join the regiment they would have to be in the area???

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Re: help identifying uniform in photo
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:46 GMT (UK) »
I'm fairly sure that the Irish  Military Historian Comdt P.D. O'Donnell who died just a few years ago wrote a history of Island Bridge (Clancy) Barracks.

This would contain a complete history of all of the British and later Irish Units to serve there.
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