Bryan surname

[Heyesie]

Hi

Anyone looking into the surname Bryan, origin Ireland
But in Liverpool early 1800's
William Bryan is my main look up
Living in Liverpool centre around early 1800's
May have originated from Ireland

[aghadowey]

In order to do any research in Ireland or indeed to make any connection to another Bryan family (the name could have originally been O'Brien) you really need to know where in Ireland your family was from (parish if not townland not just the county).

[Heyesie]

In order to do any research in Ireland or indeed to make any connection to another Bryan family (the name could have originally been O'Brien) you really need to know where in Ireland your family was from (parish if not townland not just the county).

HI

Thanks for your reply.
Yes, I have come to understand this.
But there is always a chance your research may overlap with other's
There is no real harm in asking.
A shot in the dark I know
But its worth a try.

[kattyia5]

Hi Heyesie
I am having exactly the same trouble.  My bryans end with my nan phyllis edna bryan.
Trouble is her father was married twice.  I have the marriage cert of his first marriage to my nan's mum maude elizabeth jones in blean 1906.
Apart from having Her fathers discharge papers of 1916. I have absolutely nothing on them.
John David bryan was born 1882 brentford.  his father was john bryan.  and his father (if census is correct) leads back to evenlode gloucestershire. then his father (all john bryan) was born in ireland.  (cork maybe?).
Having looked at the family name it seems that the majority of bryans come from kilkenny or wexford??
karen

[Heyesie]

Karen

Yes. reading through other's who have tried to trace Irish rellies
I understand the near impossibility of coming up with something.
Now this is where my Ignorance of Irish affairs may come in
So I hope no one takes offense to this.
I have no doubt Protestant folk did live in the south or do so even today.
But I thought with my Bryan's Baptizing children in C of E St Peters Liverpool.
This may point toward Ulster rather than southern Ireland.
So narrowing it down a little
But still not enough.
Any census would be of no use to me anyhow
As I am tending to look toward late 1700s early 1800s
So this is why I was wondering how the parish registers were in Ulster
How good are they recorded and so forth.

Eric

[aghadowey]

If the family were Church of Ireland they could have lived anywhere in Ireland. See C. of I. website for dioceses and parishes:
www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information.dioceses

Survival of parish (assuming by that you mean C.of I.) registers vary greatly from church to church but many were sent to Dublin for 'safekeeping' and destroyed during Civil War. Don't forget there were other Protestants in Ireland: Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptists, Congregationalists, Quakers, etc.

[Heyesie]

If the family were Church of Ireland they could have lived anywhere in Ireland. See C. of I. website for dioceses and parishes:
www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information.dioceses

Survival of parish (assuming by that you mean C.of I.) registers vary greatly from church to church but many were sent to Dublin for 'safekeeping' and destroyed during Civil War. Don't forget there were other Protestants in Ireland: Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptists, Congregationalists, Quakers, etc.

Just as I was saying.
But I won't learn if I dont ask
Thanks for your in put.

[julie08]

Are you still researching your Bryan family Eric?

In terms of Irish origins I don't have any more information than you, but I do have a GGGG grandmother Ellen Bryan who married Nicholas Gregson at St Peter's in Liverpool in 1792. They were living in Moorfields when they married and Maguire Street in the Vauxhall area of Liverpool when their first child was born.
Ellen died aged around 50 in 1821, so would have been a contemporary of your William Bryan, although it's a common name so there might not be a connection.
Even though they were married at St Peter's they may have been Catholic - the children of some of my other relatives who married there, or at St Nick's, were baptised Catholic.

[kattyia5]

Hi
I've since found most of my bryan. . They where all from Evenlode ..stow on the wold.  They had a farm aof 64 acres in 1860s.  Still some loose ends to tie up ..