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Re: Help identifying Harold!
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Oh thanks Ady

I was about to check out Gazettes Online for the Military Medal - I had only seen the one entry for J Quiggin on the medal cards - lesson number 1 - keep eyes peeled!!!

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Re: Help identifying Harold!
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Here is the other medal card -

What does the Z mean in the remarks column? And for the British Medal section what do the 'd' and 'R' mean? Did he get that medal or not?

- Off to get on the exercise bike now so will be back later!

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Re: Help identifying Harold!
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 13:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi
He was entitled to 1915 star,British War and Victory Medals
The "D" is ditto he entered war zone in france 12-7-15 with the RGA  royal garrision artillery the x is what would be engraved on his medals he must have been promoted quick as there is an x by cpl
the numbers and letters by the medals are references to the actual roll books at kew which would give dates overseas and unit.

Z means class z reserve most men on discharge went onto this basically if the war restarted they would be recalled

If you can find an artillery unit which entered france 12-7-15 you could pinpoint his unit.

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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ady

Do you reckon anyone on the WWI board might be able to help?

I've googled the date and Royal Garrison Artillery (guessing it was that from RGA!) but not really coming up with anything helpful.

The Gazette entry has 'Oldham' next to it so perhaps he was in a Lancs Regiment at least when he was in the Royal Engineers.

I am not sure when he moved to the Oldham area from the Isle of Man but certainly would have been there around the outbreak of WWI.

I am really pleased and so extremely thankful for everyone's help on this!

Its just said that Jack/John and Dorothy never had any children who I could pass this kind of information onto. Jack died in 1966 and Dorothy died in 1971. My little profile picture shows Dorothy at about 1 year old in 1906 on her mother's knee.

Thanks again!

Alex

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Re: Help identifying Harold!
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 12 January 08 20:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Could the first photograph be the Church Lads Brigade. It was an anglican version of the BB. More popular in the north than south.
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Re: Help identifying Harold!
« Reply #23 on: Monday 29 September 08 21:32 BST (UK) »
Last response was right. First picture is the CLB, Church Lads Brigade, which was very strong in the Manchester area. Still companies there today. Try this link. http://www.clcgb.org.uk/Looking%20Back.pdf
Self ... Conn, Brownlee, Cameron, Bates.
Wife ... Clegg, Niblock, Dunlop, Rowley.
Other ... Bremner, Lewis, McIlwrath, Cardy.

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 18:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that - definitely looks right!
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Re: Help identifying Harold!
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 21:22 BST (UK) »
The CLB photograph is probably around 1910. He would have been at least 13 as that was the joining age, and as he has a stripe would have been a member a couple of years at least.
Self ... Conn, Brownlee, Cameron, Bates.
Wife ... Clegg, Niblock, Dunlop, Rowley.
Other ... Bremner, Lewis, McIlwrath, Cardy.