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Re: Marriage Walter Bone, Mary Pagan
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 18:11 GMT (UK) »
I may have a connection with this family.   My gggxgrandmother was Margaret Bone, born around 1800, who married John Moffat in Kirkpatrick Juxta in 1821.  I have a note on my file that Walter is a possible brother or cousin.  Margaret's father was William Bone who was a Leadminer.   You should also try searching the Sanquhar/Wanlockhead and Leadhills areas, which have provided me with useful Bone information in the past.   There is also a David Bone married to a Janet Brown, 1813 Kirkpatrick Juxta -  daughters Janet and Margaret born KPJ and a son Walter born possibly Hoddam (1828).   I think IGI records for KPJ only list females so an SP search might give better results.
Ayrshire: McCormick (mack); McFadzean; Kerr; Brown; Paton; McGregor; McDonald; Moffat; Connel; Bone
Dumfries/Lanarks: (pre-1840) McDonald; Moffat; Bone; Hamilton; Hyslop; Sandiland; Bredwood; Kerr; Brown
Ireland (pre-1820) McCormick (Monaghan)

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Re: Marriage Walter Bone, Mary Pagan
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 18:23 GMT (UK) »
This sounds very interesting. I keep running across this David Bone and Janet Brown marriage as well.  Would that be Walter's brother.  I don't know what an SP search is.  A friend has sent me a marriage for Walter Bone and Mary Pagan in 1827.  It is believed he was previously married to a Mary Brown, don't have the date but children were John b 1813, Janet 1814, and Marion 1820.  So maybe 1812. 
It sounds very likely that we are connected.  I have information, unverified, that Walter was born 1791.
Thanks
Peggy
Meggison-Durham, Northumberland and Canada
Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Marriage Walter Bone, Mary Pagan
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 18:32 GMT (UK) »
I'll have a dig in my files tomorrow and let you see what I have - some of it is conjecture, based on dates and places, but it might give you some leads.
Ayrshire: McCormick (mack); McFadzean; Kerr; Brown; Paton; McGregor; McDonald; Moffat; Connel; Bone
Dumfries/Lanarks: (pre-1840) McDonald; Moffat; Bone; Hamilton; Hyslop; Sandiland; Bredwood; Kerr; Brown
Ireland (pre-1820) McCormick (Monaghan)

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Re: Marriage Walter Bone, Mary Pagan
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 18:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so very much. I look forward to hearing from you.
Peggy
Meggison-Durham, Northumberland and Canada
Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland


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Re: Marriage Walter Bone, Mary Pagan
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Found it sooner than I thought - I had typed it all out before so I will just paste it in.

I put this speculative tree together when I was trying to find a family for Margaret - I have not got positive proof, but the places and dates fit as does the naming pattern of Margaret’s children.   It was not researched in any depth, but I might do that now!

William Bone abt. 1756 married Marion Sandilands (banns Sanquhar /Crawfordjoh 1776)   Children: Janet 1779;  Marion 1781;  David  1790; William 1791; Walter 1793; and possibly my Margaret 1796 (no record of her birth) and John 1800. 

David married Janet Brown - children Walter 1828; Margaret 1832; Janet 1835
William married Jean Heastie 1811 Kirkpatrick Juxta
Walter married (and I have two recorded) 1. Mary Brown 1813,.  Children Janet 1814 and Marion 1820.   2. Mary Pagan 1827 - one child Mary
Margaret married John Moffat (my ancestors)
John married Marion Moffat (John's sister?) and had  James 1825, who married Catherine Hastie who may have been related to Jean Heastie.

Hope this helps.
Ayrshire: McCormick (mack); McFadzean; Kerr; Brown; Paton; McGregor; McDonald; Moffat; Connel; Bone
Dumfries/Lanarks: (pre-1840) McDonald; Moffat; Bone; Hamilton; Hyslop; Sandiland; Bredwood; Kerr; Brown
Ireland (pre-1820) McCormick (Monaghan)

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Re: Marriage Walter Bone, Mary Pagan
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 20:16 GMT (UK) »
This is terrific.  Thank you so much.  I did wonder at one time if David and Walter, brothers, married Brown sisters, possibly even a double wedding in 1813.
Someone else sent me the birth image of a John Bone, Sept 22, 1832, parents Walter Bone and Mary Pagan in Eskdalemuir. Also, a John Bone, unverified, no image, June 17, 1813 in KPJ, parents Walter Bone and Mary Brown.
Do you have any idea if and who might have emigrated to Canada. I know that Walter went to Puslinch, Ontario. In 1851, there is Walter and Mary, parents, with Mary 22 and John 20 which roughly agrees with the births I have.  The problem is that someone else claims that Mary 22 is their Mary.  I really think it is my Mary.
You see, my Mary goes on to marry Francis Wood in Puslinch, and then in 1901 gives her date of birth as Sept. 1829 (close).  She names her youngest son Angus McKellar Wood, and  her half-sister Marion Bone married Angus McKellar.  The other Mary goes on to marry James Bell and Gideon Hood, and has descendants named David Bone McRae and Jessie Brown McCorkingdale. Her birthday in 1901 was Jan 1, 1827 (sometimes 1824).  The years are often wrong on censuses but the dates are pretty close. Makes me wonder if she is a descendant of David, if he went to Canada, or maybe she went on her own.  Is Janet sometimes called Jessie?
Anyway, thanks so much.
Peggy
Meggison-Durham, Northumberland and Canada
Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Marriage Walter Bone, Mary Pagan
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 21:18 GMT (UK) »
From www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk  (there's a lot of good free info there - and the ability to do a degree of free searching - despite being a PPV site)

"Interchangeable names
Some names are completely interchangeable e.g. Agnes and Nancy, Donald and Daniel.
Jane could be recorded as Jean, Jessie or Janet".

Good luck with your searching.

Regards,   Steve   :O)


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Re: Marriage Walter Bone, Mary Pagan
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Steve. I have had a go at Scotland's Peope, but they weren't letting me in.  Perhaps I should try again.
I had heard of Nancy and Anne being interchangeable, but not Agnes. Live and learn.
Peggy
Meggison-Durham, Northumberland and Canada
Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Marriage Walter Bone, Mary Pagan
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 10 January 08 20:20 GMT (UK) »
I’ve just looked again on IGI - and there are more children showing for  David Bone & Janet Brown (Janet could be Jessie, also Jane or Jeannie).  The are all born in Johnstone, Dumfries and fit in well with the wedding  date as the first one is born the following year:  William 1814; Adam 1817; James 1820.  The naming of the first son, William, is an extra pointer to David being my Margaret’s brother.  I know from Margaret’s death certificate that her father was William.  Margaret gives her birthplace as Sanquhar, but that’s near enough for me and she was married at Kirkpatrick Juxta.    Unfortunately the IGI entry for Walter Bone, born Hoddam 1828 is a submitted entry so needs more ivestigation.   However, I forgot to mention, that the father of Marion Sandilands (wife of William Bone born abt. 1756) was called Walter and this could be how the name got into the family.   

She also named one of her sons David.   There is certainly some sort of connection.   If not siblings, probably cousins.  Can’t thow any light on emigration as I have concentrated on the descendants of my Margaret and John Moffat, who all stayed in Scotland.   Her brother? John Bone married to Marion Moffat, also stayed in Scotland.  They moved to Ayrshire around the Cumnock/Dalmellington area.   

I’m going to be away for a couple of days, but when I come back I will try to sort out some more concrete evidence.   As I said before, my research was in part unsubstantiated with a bit of guesswork thrown in and it would be good to see if we can settle it.

Ayrshire: McCormick (mack); McFadzean; Kerr; Brown; Paton; McGregor; McDonald; Moffat; Connel; Bone
Dumfries/Lanarks: (pre-1840) McDonald; Moffat; Bone; Hamilton; Hyslop; Sandiland; Bredwood; Kerr; Brown
Ireland (pre-1820) McCormick (Monaghan)