CORNWELL from Bottisham

[mrs_orrell]

Hello all,

Just had an interesting 20 minutes reading this thread 

My 4 x g grandparents were James Cornwell and Hannah Greygoose - I saw them mentioned in the thread in relation to their son Holmes Cornwell.  If anyone has any information, gratefully received!

I cannot find parents for either James or Hannah.  I suspect Hannah was the illegitimate daughter of Rebecca Greygoose as she was baptising illegitimate children around the right period, but not my Hannah it seems 

I know James and Hannah married 22/10/1833 at Quy, that James appears on the 1841 census but not the 1851 census, so presumably died prior to 1851 - it looks like Hannah is listed as a widow on the census but it isn't too clear - although I have yet to uncover a burial.

The children I have found for them through the CFHS Bottisham Parish Register transcription CD are
Elizabeth (my 3xg grandmother) 1835
Rebecca 1840
Holmes 1841
John 1842
Susan 1845
James 1847
Charles  1849

Hope this rings some bells with someone

Thanks!  Karen

[mrs_orrell]

Ah, dug out my CDs again and:

From Swaffham Bulbeck Parish Register:
1801
Jun 28 CORNELL James son of Holme & Elizabeth

[Peter Cornwell]

The offspring of James CORNWELL (my GGG Uncle) & Hannah (GREYGOOSE) are as you say with the sole addition of a first son Holmes who was born Q3 1837 & died Q2 1840. James as you correctly supposed died on 14 March 1851 but I too have been unable to trace his burial. Hannah stayed on in Bottisham Lode Fen after her husband's death, but with seven children to support she was forced onto parish relief. However, by the following year, she was running a beer house on the Fen which she kept for at least 9 years. Possibly the same ale house that her husband had once run ? By 1871 she had become housekeeper to William WOOLARD and was living with him in Lode Road. They married the following year but in 1881 she was living alone in Mill Road as 'Hannah CORNWELL annuitant' so she was apparently enjoying an income from somewhere.

I regret that I do not trace the female lines but I do have a note that on her marriage to WOOLARD in 1872 she volunteered her father's name as 'John NEWMAN' .

[mrs_orrell]

Hello Peter,

Thank you for your response and the information.  I have only very recently started to look at the "offshoots" from my maiden name of Knights, so not been on the trail of the Cornwells for very long.

Back in 2002 a gentleman from Bedford had contacted me regarding my Howard ancestors and had stated there was a "family legend" that we were related to Jack Cornwell - from this thread, I find this is true - distantly    My 12 year old will be pleased as he is very interested in the war and has often asked if I can find a VC anywhere on the tree!   

Do you use Ancestry?  I do have a tree on there although no current subscription.  I am happy to share the tree with you if you would like.

I had traced Hannah through the years via the census and noted the pub!  I did not know about the subsequent marriage, so will dig into this a little more, thank you so much for the information.  Have you gone back any further with James parents?

I shall probably take a trip over Bottisham way next year.  I grew up in Fenstanton (are you a Cambs person?) so I know Bottisham a little but not very well.

Thank you again for your help

Karen

[Peter Cornwell]

Hello Karen,

Once you made the connection with a CORNWELL ancestor from Bottisham your relationship to John Travers CORNWELL VC was practically assured. James CORNWELL (1801-1851) was the fifth son of Holmes CORNWELL Sr & Elizabeth (DAY) who married at Holy Trinity Bottisham on 11 July 1786. His family tree can be traced all the way back to the marriage of Robert CORNEWELL & Agnes (DRIVER) at St Vigor’s Fulbourn on 30 September 1598. If you plan to visit Bottisham we can possibly meet up? I live nearby.

[Redroger]

Yes the relationship to Jack Cornwell VC is well known my great grandmother Emily Cornwell (1850-1941) was his grandmother. My maternal grandfather Samuel Ayres(1868-1935) was his first cousin. Jack was born to his father's second relationship.i have so far failed to find the marriage.

[mrs_orrell]

Well, he is not royalty (12 year old son still holding out for that one - been watching too much WDYTYA? haha) but he is still pretty impressive - even the 9 year old daughter who thinks history is extremely boring has written a little piece for show and tell at school about him.

Peter, I have sent you a PM with my email address.

Redroger - I can PM you my email too if you like, I am not sure if you follow all lines as we must be fairly distantly related (Jack Cornwell is my 3rd cousin 4 times removed according to Family Tree maker) but I can email you further info regarding my branch if you wish

karen

[Redroger]

Yes please Karen  Peter I shall be in further  touch about the 1598 connection. I suspect I have made some (many?)  errors in my earlier tree.
Roger

[jowasere]

Hi everyone. I am looking to connect with any Cornwell relatives. Being related to Jack Cornwell seemed to be a good place to start. He(Jack) and my granddad were cousins. My granddad is Joseph C Cornwell who married Edith Milborrow in Lambeth 1926.