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Re: GLENDENING/GLENDINNING Durham & Northumberland
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 September 08 17:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Coincidentally, I'm looking for both Postles and Glendennings in Durham. Most of what I have on the earlier generations is from undocumented New.FamilySearch.org sources or from the census:
     George Glendenning b. 1809 Sunderland m/1 Elizabeth Orwin b. 1815 Sunderland, m/2 Sara b. 1817/8 Bishopwearmouth
          1. John b. 1836/7 Sunderland m. Elizabeth b. 1837 Sunderland
          2. Elizabeth Ann b. 1837 Sunderland m. David Nairn b. 1836 Sunderland
          3. George b. 1840 Sunderland m. Elizabeth Jane Shepherd b. 1841 Sunderland
                a. James Shepherd Glendenning b. 19 Aug 1866 Sunderlnad, d. 2 Mar 1921 Trimdon Grange, m. 1 Aug 1892 Hendon Bishopwearmouth, to Norah Harriet Clarinda Neagle b. 27 Sep 1872 Boston, Lindolnshire, d. 18 Jun 1900 Trimdon Grange, daughter of George William Neagle, b. abt 1839 Sunderland, and Ann "formerly Postle" b. abt 1842/1843 Blackhill, Durham
                 b. Wilson abt 1869
                 c. Elizabeth O. b. abt 1874
                 d. Martha S. b. abt 1875
                 e. Thomas b. abt 1880
                 f. George S. b. abt 1881/1882
          4. Jane b. 1843/4 Sunderland
          5. Thomas Carr b. 1845/6 Sunderland
          6. William b. 1848/9 Sunderland
          7. Wilson b. 1850/1 Sunderland
          8. Sarah (2nd wife) b. 1853/4 Sunderland

Since I can't seem to find any suitable Ann Postles in the census prior to 1871, I'm wondering whether Ann might have married a Postle prior to her marriage to George William Neagle.  They also had a daughter Florence b. abt 1870/1 Sunderland, but George, a customs officer, is listed as living in Southampton, separate from Ann, in the 1881 census, and he is married to Ellen in Hampshire in 1891.

I'm stumped.  And living in the U.S., I can't readily access the parish registers.  (James S. & Norah H. C.'s daughter Elizabeth Jane Shepherd Glendenning, my grandmother, left England around 1934.)

Beth

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Re: GLENDENING/GLENDINNING Durham & Northumberland
« Reply #10 on: Friday 12 September 08 18:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Beth,

Yes these two family names are a nightmare to research.  The glendennings/Glendinnings in my tree appear to have been in Northumberland prior to their move to Durham in about 1837ish.  There could be a link but unless I can get to the bottom of where Michael was born and who his parents and siblings were, I'm not sure I could progress any further there. 

As for your Ann Postle.  Again I'll have a look for you, but in the short term I had a quick look to see where Blackhill, Durham was and it is just a stones throw away from where my Ann Postle was born and married.  She was born Shotley, Durham, lived in Shotley bridge and married in Medomsley.  Also, her father Jonathan was originally from Hunstanworth Northumberland.  They might be areas for you to look at - there are certainly lots of Postles in and around that area.

I'll have a quick look and see if there's anything I can dig up from the info you've posted - but my access to parish records is also limited, I don't live in teh North of teh country, but there may be something knockling about in some of the places I use.

Nad
Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning, Glendening, Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland: Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster

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Re: GLENDENING/GLENDINNING Durham & Northumberland
« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 September 08 19:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you for anything you can do.  Just knowing we're in the same vicinity is encouraging. 

I did a little search on New.FamilySearch.org, and in addition to the christening record you already have, I found the following:

     Michl. Glendining MF8W-CN2 m. 1 Dec 1837 Medomsley to Ann Postle MF8W-CJQ
     Michael Glendining KZPT-GWD b. abt 1800 m. 19 Dec 1837 Medomsley to Ann Postle KCX6-8PM b. 26 Jul 1804 Low Kitty Crag, Durham, chr. 10 Nov 1804 Stanhope, Durham, daughter of Joseph Pastle or Postle, b. abt 1780, and Jane Vickers, b. abt 1785 Durham, m. 22 Oct 1804 Stanhope (witnesses Jonathan Postle & Sarah Hopper friends), who had other children: John 1807, Fanny 1809, Fanny 1810; also lists Joseph Pastle's brother Jonathan, the father of Margaret, Elizabeth, and Rebecca.  This information was patron-submitte, by kpostle2725373, but not contact information is posted.  Researchers have to physically go into the system and identify themselves before their contact info can be accessed. 
     Michael m. Ann and had Rebecca Glendinning MFSD-0K21 chr 27 Oct 1839 Medomsley
     Michael m. Ann and had John Glendining M3TF-17T chr 21 Aug 1847 St. Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne
     Michael m. Ann and had John Glendining M3TF-1ZL chr 10 Apr 1852 St. Andrew

New.FamilySearch is currently in beta-testing, but it should be available to the public shortly.  Meanwhile, though, you should be able to go to any family history center and have the consultant there access it for you.  If they don't have access yet, they'll be able to tell you when they expect to have it.  I didn't undertake to combine these entries because you said Ann was the daughter of Jonathan, not Joseph.  The site has wiki capability so users can dispute incorrect information.

Good luck with it.  And thanks again.

Beth

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Re: GLENDENING/GLENDINNING Durham & Northumberland
« Reply #12 on: Friday 12 September 08 19:30 BST (UK) »
P.S.

Both Cyndi's list and EOGN have links to Postle Family of Durham, England, which don't work.  But the root address leads to Cement Process Consulting Ltd., Canada, Ken Postle, President, kpostle AT cement-process.com.  Maybe he's the kpostle2725373 who posted the info on Ann Postle & Michael Glendining.  Do you want to contact him?  Better you than me, since you have a direct connection, while I'm just fishing.

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Re: GLENDENING/GLENDINNING Durham & Northumberland
« Reply #13 on: Friday 12 September 08 20:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Beth,

Thanks for the info.

I have seen the information submitted by Ken Postle and have been in touch with him.  Unfortunately there is a portion of his info that is not accurate, and I am unsure as to where he got it from.  We exchanged a couple of emails via another site and when I asked him about the accuracy of some of the sources of his information, he said he would check but that it had been a long time since he actually looked at it - he hasn't been in touch since.

Anyway, to give you an idea of where I'm at, Michael is from my direct line back via my paternal side, he is my GGG grandfather and I have obtained certificates etc. where possible, which relate to the direct line back to him (I haven't yet considered the cost of obtaining all siblings certificates etc. - the thought scares me, but I may have to order one or two at some point).  The following information is accurate and taken from certificates where available and where it's parish records i have obtained copies of the transcripts from records offices.

The info I have is as follows:

Michael Glendening b1817, Peepy, Northumberland,  - am currently trying to confirm if the following christening record is his - christened 28 Dec 1817 St John Lee, mother Margaret , no father's name, place of abode at time of christening Quarry House, Acomb

Michael married Ann Postle of Shotley bridge, chr. 17 Oct 1819 St Mary Magdalene, Medomsley, daughter of Jonathan Postle and Mary, abode, Shotley Bridge (copy of parish birth record obtained).  They married 19 Dec 1837 at the Chapel of Medomsley, Durham, witnesses, Lindsay Smith and Jacob Pyle.  These two witnesses appear on many other marriages around the same time, I think they may have been church clerks or something (copy of marriage certificate held).
They had 5 children;
Rebecca b1839 chr. 27 oct 1839 Medomsley Durham
Jonathan b1844 Ryton Durham
John b9th Sept 1851,  F Pit, Usworth, Chester Le Street Durham (birth certificate held as this is my gg grandfather)
Joseph b1855 Washington Durham
Micahel Henry b1859 Washington Durham.

For some reason there only seems to a baptism record for the daughter Rebecca.

My great grandmother and her husband stayed in the Washington area of Durham until about 1934 when the pit my g grandfather was working in shut down.  They then went over the river to Newcastle, although most of the family remained in Durham.

There is a bit of an issue about Ann Postle's mother as the only record for the marriage of Jonathan Postle is to Rebecca Forster, 5 mar 1804, Medomsley, Durham, and with her Jonathan had at least 4 children, but the parish records indicate there were another 2 female children who I have not yet found.  When Ann comes along in 1819, the parish record lists her mother as Mary, but it is definitely the same Jonathan.  I have yet to find a death for Rebecca before he got together with Mary, so am unsure as to why the name Mary appears on the baptism .

Rebecca obviously factors as Michael and Ann go on to name their first (and only) daughter Rebecca, which would follow the normal naming patterns of first daughter named after mother's mother etc.

Anyway, I don't know if this has any impact on your info, and I will look further at the info you posted for the Sunderland Glendenings and let you know if I turn anything up.

Nad

Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning, Glendening, Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland: Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster

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Re: GLENDENING/GLENDINNING Durham & Northumberland
« Reply #14 on: Friday 12 September 08 20:06 BST (UK) »
P.P.S. Kenneth Spencer Postle's tree is part of Ancestry.com's World Tree:

                                        8   John Postle   =>
                                             B:  ABT 1740
                                             P:  Co Durham ?
                                             D:  13 JUN 1783
                                             P:  Allenheads, Northumberland

                               4   Jonathan Postle P:  
                                    B:  ABT 1760
  
                                         9   Unknown    
                                              B:  ABT 1740
                                              P:  Co Durham ?

                    2   Jonathan Postle
                         B:  APR 1786  
                         P:  Allenhead, Northumberland
                         M:  5 MAR 1804
                         P:  Medomsley, Durham, Uk  

                              5   Mary Dodd
                                   B:  ABT 1760
 
1  Anne Postle  
    B:  OCT 1819    
    P:  Medomsley, Durham, England

          3   Rebecca Forster
               B:  ABT 1785  


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Re: GLENDENING/GLENDINNING Durham & Northumberland
« Reply #15 on: Friday 12 September 08 20:22 BST (UK) »

Thanks for keeping me in mind.  Ken Postle's tree doesn't include my Ann b. abt 1842/3, as far as I can tell.

Beth

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Re: GLENDENING/GLENDINNING Durham & Northumberland
« Reply #16 on: Friday 12 September 08 22:03 BST (UK) »
Hello. There is a Postle family from Leadgate, buried at Lanchester.
See the Lanchester M Inscription posting.

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Re: GLENDENING/GLENDINNING Durham & Northumberland
« Reply #17 on: Friday 12 September 08 23:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Adam,

Yes thanks, I did get that from you earlier in the year - Richardsons and Postles.  I know they relate to the family somehow,  the few people who have Postles all have Attwell/Attiwell in there as siblings of Jonathan but so far no-one has been able to confirm the link other than they come from roughly the same area. 
I have stored the details of the inscriptions to use in my research.

Thanks again, not just for this note but for the work you've put in with the inscriptions.

Nad
Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning, Glendening, Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland: Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster