Glendening Northumberland

[Julie Anne]

Just to add to my earlier messages on this thread.
I now have the 1841 census for John Glenden(n)ing b.1798 and his wife Margaret and their 5 children (their first child having already died), see HO107/307/20/8p.11.  And together with DavidM's information, I now have John and Margaret having 6 children altogether:
1. George 1824-1830
2. William 1826
3. Robert 1828
4. James 1832
5. Jane 1834
6. George 1837.

[David Coulthard]

Julie,

Am I right that this John Glendenning to whom you are referring is the younger brother of James Glendening (b 1796 Barton St Mary) and brother in law to his wife, Sarah Chandler?

Do you have any birthdays for these two brothers?

Anything at all yet on their father John ( spotted as being from Carlisle on something!!)? He married jane Jackson if my memory serves me.

David

[Julie Anne]

Yes David I was referring to John brother of James and son of John Glenden(n)ing and Jane Jackson. 
James and John junior were baptised on 14 February 1796 and 11 November 1798 respectively in Barton St. Mary, Yorkshire.  I also have a birth for John of 23 May 1798.
I have not progressed further with John senior in Carlisle.  The first thing I want to do is get hold of the original of his daughters baptism which is as far as I know the only reference of John senior being from Carlisle.  I have just found out that the pilot version of the FamilySearch website has original image of the Bishop's Transcripts of Darlington St. Cuthberts.  On my first look the images were good but the order of the transcripts not totally logical and the reader had to be paged through from page 1 very slowly.  I would be interested to know if DavidM or anyone else for that matter has/ has had access to these registers more easily.
Julie

[WolfieSmith]

www.durhamrecordsonline.com has some Darlington St.Cuthbert records. Baptisms 1798-1812, Marriages 1798-1837, Burials 1689-1812. Its pay per view, transcriptions not original records, but they are excellent transcriptions, which give all the details that are on the register.

Do a free search on All records - Darlington - surname glend*

Comes up with the baptisms of Eleanor Glendenham 1803 and Elizabeth Glendenning 1806.
Also the burial of Jane Glendenning born 1786, died 1807, birthplace Whorlton.
Among 49 Glendinning/Glendenning etc records in Darlington.

Alan.

[Julie Anne]

Thanks Alan,
I had come across that and might well look at it again.  But what we really need is the original Eleanor's 1803 baptism, I think, which has a note by it about her father's origins.
Alan are you descended from Eleanor?  Sometimes I've seen Eleanor's mother given as Grace rather than Jane Jackson.  What is your view?
Julie

[WolfieSmith]

Jane,
The durham records site gives the full transcriptions, I just gave whats on the "free to search" index.
I have lots of credits with them, so eg. the details given of Eleanors baptism are :

30 Nov 1803 Eleanor Glendenham, born 13 Oct 1803, 2nd daughter of John Glendenham (labourer, native of Carlisle) & Jane Jackson (native of Whorlton, Yorkshire).

I'm not related, just one of the "helpers" on here, who has ground to a halt on his own family tree, but has lots of underused subscriptions and credits.

Alan.

[WolfieSmith]

Sorry, Julie, not Jane.

Alan.

[Julie Anne]

Dear DavidM you mentioned that:
"The James I am tracking had a son, James, christened 26 July 1831 at Saint Cuthbert's, Darlington."
Well David I don't know whether it is different in the parish registers but on the bishop's transcripts (you can now access images of the ORIGINALS online) say that on 26 July 1831 James son of JOHN and Margaret was christened at St Cuthberts i.e. NOT SON OF JAMES.
This would simultaneously solve the problem of how our James who married in London in 1825 can be the same as your James and give his brother John a son James.
Your much appreciated information has made me reinvestigate John and Margaret's family.   I now believe with your information added that John and Margaret had six children; George (1824-1830), William (1826-), Robert (1828-), James (1831-), Jane (1834-) and George(1837-).  This concurs with the 1841 census I have for them in New Shildon (HO107/307/20/8p.11); unfortunately Ancestry transcribes the family as "Glendenig" which put me off the scent to start with.
Unfortunately as well the Bishop Transcripts of Darlington St. Cuthbert's online don't seem to cover 1803, so I am still missing an original image of Eleanor Glendening's baptism with the reference to her father (John senior)'s origin of Carlisle.
Regards,
Julie

[Julie Anne]

Hi Alan,
Sorry I didn't read your post properly.  The transcription "30 Nov 1803 Eleanor Glendenham, born 13 Oct 1803, 2nd daughter of John Glendenham (labourer, native of Carlisle) & Jane Jackson (native of Whorlton, Yorkshire)" is perfect.
Thanks for using some of your credits. 
In your opinion does this mean that he was born in Carlisle or that he lived there at some point?  What do others think?
Julie