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Re: Glendening Northumberland
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 January 08 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Michael,

Thank you so much.  I would love to get to the bottom of this if I can, particularly as there's little chance of me getting further back on my Richardson side.

Looking at census info, on 1851 census, which was taken before John b1851 was born, Jonathan is listed as Jonathan, and remains listed as Jonathan throughout all the other ones too.

With regard to the naming thing for Ann Postles mother - more confusion for me??!!

Jonathan Postle and Rebecca Forster had 4 children that I have found.

Joseph b1805 bap 1805 listed as 1st son of ....
John b1807 bap 1810 listed as 2nd son of ...
Rebecca b1810 bap 1810 (at the same time as John) listed as 3rd daughter of ....
Nathaniel b 1815 bap 1815 listed as son of .....

The above records indicate that there should be 2 other daughters somewhere - I've yet to find them.

Then we have Ann Postle b 1819 daughter of Jonathan and Mary.

I can't find a burial record for Rebecca Postle (Forster), but there is a Rebecca Postle aged 60 on the 1841 census living with Deborah/Dorothy Postle aged 21, Elizabeth aged 23. Joseph aged 20 and wait for it, a Mary Crozier with an age of either 30 or 50, there's a blob on the census document so it's not clear which it is, but she is not from Durham and in the other box where it asks whether from Scotland Ireland or foreign parts there's an I !!!!  The dates for the children are all wrong, in fact I think they are the children of another Postle family from Weardale (there seem to be a few Postle families in the same area). 

It could be coincidence - it's all too confusing.  I guess I nned to try and find a birth for Rebecca Forster to know for sure.  I think it's going to take me years to get to the bottom of this family of mine!!

Anyway, any help you can give will be hugely appreciated, thanks again for your help to date.

Nadine 

Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning, Glendening, Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland: Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster

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Re: Glendening Northumberland
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 05 January 08 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I forgot to confirm Micaehl and Anns childrens birth order>
Rebecca b1839 surname registered at  birth GLENDENING
Jonathan b1844 surname reg at birth GLENDINNING
John b1851 surname reg at birth GLENDENNING
Joseph b1855 surname reg at birth GLENDINNING
Michael Henry b1859 surname reg at birth GLENDINNING

There is another John GLELNDINNING
Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning, Glendening, Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland: Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster

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Re: Glendening Northumberland
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 05 January 08 16:17 GMT (UK) »
 :D
Sorry, don't know what happened there.  What I was saying is that there is another John GLENDINNING born 1851 in Hexham, he is a John Thomas Glendinning.  I have assumed he is not my John because apart from the year of birth he didn't quite fit in with anything else I have. My John doesn't have a middle name listed on any census documents, or on his daughter Mary's birth certificate.  I am currently waiting for copies of Johns birth and marriage certificates which i hope will prove I am correct in this assumption.
Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning, Glendening, Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland: Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster

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Re: Glendening Northumberland
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 January 08 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Nadine,

Yesterday I had opportunity to look into parish records (transcriptions) of Bywell St Andrew and Bywell St Peter.

Unfortunately the transcriptions ( labours of love by researchers in early 1900s) did not span the period in which Michael is most likely to have been born.

However, using the surname indexes that were available for earlier periods, I could not find a single Glendening (or variations) event.

Next time I am at Northumberland County Records Office
(at Woodhorn) I shall look in the full parish records.

Michael Dixon
Names.

GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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Re: Glendening Northumberland
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 January 08 19:12 GMT (UK) »
Michael,

No Glendenings at all?  Oh dear, Thanks for trying for me anyway.  I have now received Johns (b1851) birth and marriage certificates and definitely have the right one.  There's the same old variation on the spelling of the surname, on John's birth certificate Michael's surname is spelt Glendenning but on the marriage cert of John to Mary Ann Carr, the surname has become Glendinning.

Once again, thanks for trying to help.  :)

Nadine
Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning, Glendening, Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland: Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster

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Re: Glendening Northumberland
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 January 08 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Nadine,

Don't lose any sleep about the variations of the surname...

On line, I just search for " glen* "

My mother's Gallaghers were recorded by various officials in  over 30 variations (including Kalliga)


The "Surname Profiler" web site shows on a GB map, how a surname is distributed over GB.

Glendenning seems to be strongest in South-West Scotland, then South-East Scotland, then Northumberland ( and hardly anywhere else-have a look yourself)

Michael Dixon
Names.

GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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Re: Glendening Northumberland
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 10 January 08 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Michael,

I had noticed that there were lots in Scotland.  I lost the family in 1881 and someone said the name may be scottish so looked on the Scottish census - there are hundreds of them!!  But mine weren't there, as it turned out they were still in the same place in Durham just spelt Glenaning!!

Nadine
Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning, Glendening, Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland: Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster

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Re: Glendening Northumberland
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 October 08 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Nadine,

This is my first time on this site so excuse me writing long after your posts trying to trace your family. I wonder if you can help though.

I am attempting to link up to the Borders a family of Glendening's I have researched in the south of England (Middlesex and Kent) . The grandson and great grandson became well known artists.

I have traced James Glendening to Barton St Mary, Yorkshire in 1796 (born - date unknown) and baptized at the church there on 14th February 1796. He is the one who then moved down to Middlesex.

His father who was a witness to the christensing records (so I am told) and indicated he lived in/came from Carlisle. His father was called John Glendening. I am very keen to learn something about this John Glendening born in or around Carlisle I guess around 1765 to 1775. Where might I find that sort of information? Do you know? 

Does your family tree take you across to Carlisle with a links to this John and his son James?

David


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Re: Glendening Northumberland
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 October 08 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi David,
I don't think I'm going to be of much help to you I'm sorry.  I have a suspician that my Glendening./Glendenning/Glendinning family may have originally come from Scotland, but am still at a standstill with the parentage of Michael b1817.  He was born in Peepy Northumberland and whilst i've found a possible mother for him in St John Lee Northumberland, I've no way of knowing if it's definitely her (there are a number of addresses wiht the same detail close by).  Also, as he puts a father's name of John on his marriage certificate I'm not sure he was even illegitimate.  I'm told that unlike the other side of my family the baptism entry for St John Lee does not read 'illegitimate' and the mothers name does not have 'single woman' against it.

The other side of my family that the Glendenings married into (Richardson) did it appears originate from Cumbria (Whitehaven and the surrounding area) but I've no idea if earlier Glendenings were in the same area.

I don't know where you are in relation to Cumbria, I am at the other end of the country and so have been reliant on help from other Rootschatters and people from other sites.  There are a few records offices in Cumbria, so as a starting piont I'd think you'd need to establish at which office your parish records are likely to be held - I'm sure someone on here will be able to tell you.

I do use the LDS site alot as a starting point, although you do have to follow up and confirm the info there.  I have found people on this (rootschat) site very helpful in confirming/giving advice on the information found.

If you start a topic, giving them as much detail as you have, there is normally someone willing to try and look things up for you.  One kind person looked up the Whitehaven parish records for me and got me details of my GGG grandparents marriage on the Richardson side and details of all their childrens baptisms at the same church (pre-registration).  Although, I have to say, the Glendenings have been a big stumbling block for me, and much as people have tried to help, I am no further on in finding the parents of my Michael Glendening (possibly John and Margaret Glendening).

I wish you luck with your search.

Nad
Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning, Glendening, Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland: Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster