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GERMANY: help needed LAUFFER
« on: Wednesday 02 January 08 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi

A friend has a German ancestry and I really need some help to get further back!

We have a Henry lauffer and his wife franscisca living in glasgow in 1901.  He is a cigar importer.  they have a 20 year old son henry and a 23 year old adolphus.    However they seem to have married in 1895 in Glasgow with him being 61 and her being 42.  very strange  :-\

I can't see them in the 1891 census so i take it they were not here yet.

I have got their death certificates and Henry Lauffer's parents were Adolph Lauffer and Dorothea Brusch.

Fransisca's parents were Gustav Olunk and Wilhelmina _____

I have looked on the family search site and can't find their births.

Does anyone know where we can find any more information?

The family story is that there was a bit of a scandal and that Henry Lauffer was part of a large German family and was forced to leave Germany.

Thanks, Caroline :)
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Re: GERMANY: help needed LAUFFER
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Poppysmum,

I looked in the National Archives site
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp

for LAUFFER and found this:

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Nationality and Naturalisation: Lauffer, Adolf, from Germany. Resident in Glasgow. Certificate 7,463 issued 15 December 1920.     1920


Could this be the son, Adolphus ?  On the one hand, it seems a bit late butas there is noe record of his parents getting naturalised, maybe he decided to go ahead and do it.

If the friend can afford it, it might be worth getting the papers, to find out more.

Otherwise, does she have any information about where in Germany they would have come from ??

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Bob
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Re: GERMANY: help needed LAUFFER
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 18:59 GMT (UK) »
that's great thanks!!

All we know is from the census, where it says place of birth, it says germany and we can't read the rest but on the ancestry transcription it says Sidfich don't know if this is any good.

I will have a look at that link and see how much it costs to get the papers  :)
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Re: GERMANY: help needed LAUFFER
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 19:03 GMT (UK) »
I looked in the National Archives site
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp
for LAUFFER and found this:
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Nationality and Naturalisation: Lauffer, Adolf, from Germany. Resident in Glasgow. Certificate 7,463 issued 15 December 1920.    1920
Could this be the son, Adolphus ? On the one hand, it seems a bit late butas there is noe record of his parents getting naturalised, maybe he decided to go ahead and do it.
Possibly WWI had something to do with Adolph waiting until 1920 to apply for British citizenship.

Ancestry lists the family in 1901 census as Lanffer and gives Henry's age as 66 and wife 'Frances' as 48. Perhaps Frances/Franciska was Henry's second wife. Birthplacce in Germany is '(German Sidfich), Germany' but not sure where it would be.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!


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Re: GERMANY: help needed LAUFFER
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Poppysmum,

maybe you attach that bit of the census image here.
If you don't have access, maybe you could put up the census reference here, then somebody could attach that bit.

Place names are very important for german research, as they don't have the massive amounts of online data that we have here.

Bob
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Re: GERMANY: help needed LAUFFER
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know how to get the papers from the archives? :-[

We know that adolphus was unable to fight in the war and that he changed his name to Andrew.

I've tried googliong sidfich and found nothing  ::)
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Re: GERMANY: help needed LAUFFER
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Have a look at
Topic: RootsChat Topics - Naturalisation and Internment
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,157691.0.html

the answer is in there somewhere, probably on the topic about Naturalisation papers at Kew.

Just had a thought: very much a long shot but thinking soundexly (now there's a lovely word  ;D ),
Sidfich could be Schleswig or similar.
(the w is pronounced like a v and a that could have been heard as an f )

Bob
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Re: GERMANY: help needed LAUFFER
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 19:11 GMT (UK) »
sorry, i don't know how to save the census page  :-[ i have tried but not got anywhere.
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Re: GERMANY: help needed LAUFFER
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Bridgeton; ED: 49; Line: 4; Year: 1901.


Is this it?
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