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Re: Need Help Please.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 December 07 13:44 GMT (UK) »
There's this birth ...

Albert William Foord Gawler
Jun 1863  
Maidstone 2a 511

 ???
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 December 07 13:45 GMT (UK) »
So, if you take Tati's advice and get the 1880 Marriage Cert, and William's father is one of the bro's of Harriet, then we can focus in ...
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 December 07 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou all for the information. I will take your advice Tati and see where that leads me. If you find anything else on this family, please keep me in mind.

                         Again, Thankyou so much.

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 30 December 07 20:08 GMT (UK) »
I'm a bit worried after finding the Gawler birth I must say. If he was illegitimate who knows how reliable the father named on the marriage cert will be  :-\
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 31 December 07 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tati, Don't be worried about the Gawler find.  It is very possibly the one that we have been looking for. I'll let you know the outcome.

Thankyou soooooo much.  ;D ;D ;D
 
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« Reply #14 on: Monday 31 December 07 13:11 GMT (UK) »
First, by way of introduction, I am Lynn's cousin. We just connected a few months ago, and I have been working on this line for a long (and I mean long!) time. Just to cover a few details, we do know that William Albert's father was James Foord based on his marriage (which does not list his mother) to Emma Foster. With the exception of "Tati", I want to thank everyone for offering help. Unfortunately we have followed all of those leads, and proven them inaccurate. Now, specifically to Tati......I am  close to 100% sure that you have it right, and I don't think I can possibly express my gratitude deeply enough. I have, literally, been working on this for years, even to the point of going through every single page in the census of both Maidstone and Murston in the hope of finding a near illegible entry and/or transcription error. I have no idea how you managed to find this (how did you?), but again, how can I say thanks. It proves the point that everyone's opinion is important, that we are all  in this genealogy pursuit together, and that we should never give up! I am ordering the certificate today, and hopefully it will provide his mother's name. It is pretty clear that he was illegitimate, and likely distressed by it since he reverted back to the Foord surname when he married. Again, on behalf of Lynn and myself, our deepest thanks, with a special salute to Tati...Larry Foord
Foord, both from Sussex and Kent...vist our website:
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« Reply #15 on: Monday 31 December 07 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Some BMD indexes ie. freebmd at http://www.ancestry.co.uk (not necessarily complete) can be searched with a second name as a forename ie. a search for "foord gawler" turns up:

Albert William Foord GAWLER 1863 Maidstone
James Foord GAWLER 1851 Bridge
Maria Foord GAWLER 1855 Bridge
Sarah Foord GAWLER 1849 Bridge
Adelaide Foord GAWLER 1853 Bridge

They look a good match for the following family.

1851

North Lane, Westgate Without, Canterbury

James FOORD head mar 34 general dealer b.Wingham Kent
Sarah wife 23 b.Canterbury
Caroline dau 3 b.Canterbury
Sarah dau 21m b.Canterbury

HO107/1623 folio 148 page 3
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1861

6 Jeffery Street, Maidstone

James FOORD head mar 40 fishmonger b.Canterbury
Sarah wife 31 b.Canterbury
Caroline dau 13 b.Canterbury
Sarah dau 11 b.Canterbury
James 9 b.Canterbury
Adelaide dau 7 b.Canterbury
Maria dau 5 b.Canterbury
George son 6m b.Maidstone

RG9/503 folio 12 page 17
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« Reply #16 on: Monday 31 December 07 14:27 GMT (UK) »
OOh Casalguidi - with a father James that's a great find! So instead of being illegitimate the whole family just dropped the Gawler  :D :D

Larry - thanks for being so happy  :D :D I hope it won't despair you that the birth was quite easy to find - well now that FreeBMD is nearly complete anyway. I just searched for an Albert William (no surname) registered in Maidstone between 1860 and 1864  :)
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« Reply #17 on: Monday 31 December 07 14:32 GMT (UK) »
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First, by way of introduction, I am Lynn's cousin. We just connected a few months ago, and I have been working on this line for a long (and I mean long!) time. Just to cover a few details, we do know that William Albert's father was James Foord based on his marriage (which does not list his mother) to Emma Foster. With the exception of "Tati", I want to thank everyone for offering help. Unfortunately we have followed all of those leads, and proven them inaccurate.



What a pity that Lynn didnt know you had the marriage cert ........  ::)


So does the Cert confirm that James was a Fishmonger or later occupation in the 1871/81 census ?
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