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Offline millymollymandy

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HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!
« on: Saturday 29 December 07 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help me please? I have very little information about my Great Grandmother born Annie or Ann Dark in Buckland, Devon around 1864.

I do have a copy of her marriage to my Great Grandfather, George Spiller, at the Parish Church, North Curry, Somerset, on 3 May 1892. On the Certificate, Annie's father is named as Joseph, a gardener. I obtained a copy of the Marriage Certificate of a Joseph Dark to Mary Pooley, who were married at Bideford Register Office on 5 October 1861, both residing at Woolfardisworthy. Joseph's father is named Thomas Dark, a farmer. I also have copies of the following:-

A Birth Certificate of Annie Dark born on 22 November 1864 at Bideford Union Workhouse. Her mother's name is Ellen, but the father is not named;

A copy of the 1841 Census for Parkham, Devon, which includes Thomas and Miriam Dark and Family, including son Joseph, aged 7;

A copy of the 1861 Census for Woolfardisworthy, Devon, which includes Thomas and Miriam Dark and family, including son Joseph, aged 26;

A copy of the 1871 Census for Lundy Island in the Bristol Channel, which includes Joseph Dark, aged 35, and wife Mary and children, but no Annie/Ann;

A copy of the 1881 Census for St. Erme?, Truro, Cornwall, which shows an Ann Dark, aged 20, a general servant, born in Devon (with a Thomas Dark, aged 15), living with Richard and Mary Cleave and family. Not sure that this is my Annie.

A copy of the 1901 Census for Wiveliscombe Without, Somerset, on which Annie is aged 36 living with her husband George and children, including my grandmother, Gertrude. Annie's birthplace is named as 'Devonshire, Buckland'.

There are so many families with the surname 'Dark' in Devon and I have obtained so many Certificates that have not related.

Please could somebody help me find out exactly when and where Annie/Ann was born and give me some information about her family? I have spent so long on this subject, without much success. I can find so little about her and am beginning to wonder if she was, in fact, the baby born in Bideford Workhouse, and that her father's real name was not Joseph!

Many thanks.

Millymollymandy  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(










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Re: HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 December 07 20:18 GMT (UK) »

Ok, 1892 marriage cert:
anyy address, age of bride & groom, witness names..

all census,

piece, folio and page for all?

That way we can see what you see.

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Re: HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 December 07 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Pauline is right.  Witnesses etc on marriage certificates can hold vital clues.   The more info you can give the better.  It does sound a difficult one.  Just the sort that is enjoyed on rootschat!  Let us have it all.....
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Re: HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 December 07 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello Pauline,

I have reference numbers on the Census copies. Is this what you mean? If not, where would I find the info you want?

Thanks,

Millymollymandy


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Re: HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 December 07 20:49 GMT (UK) »

witness names, ages of all parties, and what numbers you see on the census pieces.

We'll yell you if it's not enough...

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Re: HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 December 07 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Yes that is it. eg the 1861 census will start RG9 then the piece number, folio and then page.  The 1901 is RG13 2268 F14 p2
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Re: HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 December 07 21:07 GMT (UK) »
The 1871 family are in Wales 1881. RG11/5362 F107 P39.

Joseph the father is now a market gardener; still no Annie though.

Dora b 1863 died in swansea 1885.

1891 Swansea. kids have moved out.

Joseph's a Gardener still. RG12/4483; F22; P37

Ellen b1865 is a Barmaid . RG12/4478 F77 p19

Florence (b1870) is a Inn Barmaid. RG12/4478 F117 P5.

Dunno what to think now....
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Re: HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 December 07 11:35 GMT (UK) »
This is a  touch off topic but may be helpful to someone. Woolfardisworthy is pronounced Woolsery and often written phoenetically.

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Re: HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 December 07 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

There is a Ann Dark, aged 10 b Buckland Brewer living with her parents Joseph and Jane in 1871. Also siblings ...one of her brother's is a Gardener, Joseph is an Ag lab.

there is a marriage of Joseph Dark to either a Jane Arnold or Jane Hookway in 1855 , Bideford.

ummm cannot find Joseph in 1891 ....

deb  :-\
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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