HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!!

[deb usa]

Hi again MMM

I have found John Arnold , the bargeman in 1851 with wife Betsy and jane ...it appears Betsy ,the wife, may have been married before as their are step children.

will post details shortly

deb

[millymollymandy]

Hello again,

I have now obtained a copy of the Marriage Certificate of Joseph Dark and Jane Dark who would appear more likely to be the parents of my Annie/Ann, and both resided in Buckland Brewer (her birthplace) at the time of their marriage. They were married at the Register Office in Bideford on 3 January 1855. Joseph was aged 25, a farm servant, and no father's name was given. Jane was aged 20, a glover, and her father's name was John Arnold, a bargeman. The witnesses were Thomas Snell and John Parr. Can anyone help to find the name of Joseph's father and let me know any more about Annie/Ann please?

Please can anyone help me? On the quoted Marriage Certificate of 1855, Joseph's place of residence at the time of marriage was 'Beara', Buckland Brewer. Is Beara actually a place/village?
I have found reference to a 'Bearah' in Buckland Brewer on the 1861 Devon Census RG 9/1504 with the 'Hamlyn' family residing there. I have also found on the internet a place called 'Beara Farmhouse' (The Old Shippon), Buckland Brewer. Could the 'Beara' on the marriage certificate be this farmhouse?

MillyMollyMandy 

MMM

[deb usa]

Hi MMM

so sorry I have not gotten back to you ....

I will find them again ...and post asap

deb

[deb usa]

Hi again

In 1861
Buckland Brewer
Orleigh Lodge
Joseph DARK 31 ag lab
Jane 24 glover
Reuben 6
Thomas 4

Orleigh Lodge is on the page before the Hamlyns who are living at Bearah, which is most probably the name of the farm ... so joseph is not too far away from where he was residing in 1855.

will search some more

deb

[millymollymandy]

Hello Deb,

Thanks for that.

On Joseph and Jane's Marriage Certificate, no mention is made of Joseph's father's name. Would this have meant that he was illegitimate? If he was deceased, surely it would have mentioned this. Any ideas please?

MMM 

[deb usa]

Hi MMM
in 1851

Monkleigh
Rudd
John ARNOLD 5? bargeman  b Ashreigney
Betsy wife 37 b Wear Gifford
JANE 14 Glover b Monkleigh
Anne 6 scholar b    "
William 4 b monkleigh
Charles 2 months b "
Jane BLIGHT step daughter 14 glover b Wear Gifford
Betsy "            "         "   12   glover     b    "
Harriet Jones vistor unm 18 glover


will search for Joseph Dark in 1851...  Joseph was b c 1830 will look for him in 1841 and 51 ....


deb

deb

[deb usa]

I have looked on IGI and cannot find Joseph b c 1830

in 1841 ...this may be him with his family

Parkham
cannot make out name of farm

Thomas Dark farmer 40 Y
Miriam 38 Y
Thomas 13 Y
john 11 Y
Joseph 7 Y ...his age still does not add up to b c 1830
Thirza 3 Y
Ellen1 Y

'up the road at another farm'
Joseph DARK farmer 35 Y
rebecca 30 Y
Mary 9 Y
Louisa 7 Y
John 5 Y
/
John Dark 15 Y

arrrgghhhhh 

deb 

added ...In the 1861 Joseph was b Parkham and Jane in Monkleigh

[millymollymandy]

Hello again,

I don't think this is the Joseph in question. If you look back at my initial query, I have a copy of Joseph Dark's and Mary Pooley's Marriage Cert. dated 5 October, 1861. They were both residing in Woolfardisworthy. Thomas was named as Joseph's father. I think we ruled this Joseph out. It's getting very confusing again!

MMM 

[deb usa]

hi again

yep I am a little confused..

okay we have Anne Dark/t born 1862 who ends up marrying George Spiller ... her dad on marriage cert state Joseph Dark as her dad.

we then have a 1861 and 1871 census of Anne's parents ...Joseph Dark and Jane Arnold who married 1855. Joseph in 1861 staes he was born Parkham and jane Arnold was b Monkleigh.

so the Joseph age 7 with Miriam and Thomas is the Joseph who married Mary Pooley in 1861 and not Jane Arnold .....

arrgghh do I have this right ?

deb