Is this the uniform of an officer?

[justmej]

Thanks Andrew, I really appreciate your help!

Annie, once again thank you for the links.  I'm impressed -  you are pretty good at finding these things!  Have downloaded it but, embarrassed to say, don't understand much of it 

Is regiment no. different to service no.?  If so, would I necessarily need to find his service no. to obtain his records?  Finally, as he appears to have been in different regiments, would all of his records be kept together, or would I need to apply for them separately?

Scrimnet, I owe you an apology, after realising I had not dated the original photo, which you quite rightly say, was taken post 1944; it was taken in 1946, at Datteln, Germany.  Can I ask what the CFSC stands for?

I'm so impressed with how knowledgeable you all are on here....

Justmej

[liverpool annie]

Hi Justmej !

If you post the medal card on here ... somebody may come along and read it for you ! 

Annie 

[justmej]

Am I allowed to do that Annie?  If so, will probably have to be tomorrow now, as my computer seems to be acting itself  and although I have printed a copy off, I have not managed to save it yet.  Will scan copy tomorrow, on OH computer, as this computer is definitely misbehaving for some reason.

Scrimnet so kindly dated that photo for me, which I am particularly grateful for, although I posted it  mainly to confirm that his uniform was that of a Lieutenant Colonel and I was hoping to find his regiment from it.  These photos were taken when he opened a childrens' hospital, in Germany, which I've previously mentioned, on another thread, a while ago BUT, I just don't know how to get the link to that .

In the book I have, he was referred to as Colonel and yet I understood him to be Lieutenant Colonel, hence the reason for posting the pic, although extremely grateful for all the information.

justmej

[Stebie9173]

Here is the London Gazette entry for Lt. J. P. Oliver relinquishing his commision at the end of WW1. The date of 1st September 1921 was when a lot of the "for the Duration" officers were discharged from the Army.

London Gazette 20-12-1921

War Office,

20th December, 1921.
REGULAR FORCES.
INFANTRY.

Service Battalions.

The undermentioned relinquish their commissions on completion of service:

1 Sept. 1921

Loyal R.

Temp. Lt. J. P. Oliver, and retains the rank of Lt.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ViewPDF.aspx?pdf=32555&geotype=London&gpn=10437&type=ArchivedSupplementPage&exact=J.%20P.%20Oliver


Here he is rejoining the Army as a Second Lieutenant:

London Gazette 19-2-1943

GENERAL LIST, INFANTRY.

The undermentioned to be 2nd Lts.:

1st Dec. 1942:
Lt. James Patterson OLIVER (250681).

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ViewPDF.aspx?pdf=35910&geotype=London&gpn=878&type=ArchivedSupplementPage&exact=Patterson%20Oliver



Steve.

[liverpool annie]

Here we go .... here's our starter for ten !! 

I'll be quiet now !!

[justmej]

Wow! What a star you are Steve.........thank you so very much for these.  Of course, this poses yet another question - are the nos. in brackets his service no?

The date of 1st Dec 1942, also explains the reason why he'd given notice in 1942, to leave his position of mining under-manager, which I came across mentioned in a newspaper article.

No Annie, you don't need to be quiet  !!!

justmej

[liverpool annie]

Yes I do ! .... I have to be quiet and learn !! 

[Stebie9173]

I'm more WW1 than WW2, but I believe that the number was not technically a Service number, but was the number by which his records were tracked. Not a great deal of difference, really! I think it was more along the lines of the officer not needing to quote this as "name, rank and number"

Then, again, I said WW2 was not my forte.

Steve.

[liverpool annie]

His full name was James Patterson Oliver and he was born 03 Jan 1894 and I know he served in both wars.  I have a small faded pic, which he signed and wrote 'Cairo 1917'.

justmej


 

So Steve ... any chance of finding anything from WW1 .... did he come up through the ranks then ?? where would be the best place to start looking ??

Annie