1841/51 Census lookup

[Biker]

Hi Mary

Re: Edward

There is an Edward Crook, visitor  b 1847 in London living with a William and Fanny Harty/Harry or similar family in Wiltshire in 1851.

Make any sense?

Jonathan

[MaryCrook69]

Hi Jonathan
No does not make any sense. I am totally ignorant of the distances between counties of England.  I live in Ohio in the United States.
It is quite possible this is my Edward.
Was it comman for Families to move around often ?  Where is Wiltshire in relationship to Middlesex.
Thanks for the reply . You are a geneology angel.
Mary

[Biker]

Hi Mary

London vs Wiltshire, about 200 miles.  Families did move around surprisingly often.

I'm  happy to help but would be good if you had any additional information about the Crook families, eg parents names/occupations as just in middlesex alone there are 400+ Crook individuals in 1851.

If you can provide some additional information I, or someone else, will be happy to have a further dig for you.

Regards
Jonathan 

[MaryCrook69]

Hello Jonathan
This is what I know for sure.
Alfred  Samuel Crook my GG Grandfather B. #3 Bruce Cottage, Tottenham, Middlesex, Jan. 1851,
Died North Wheeling Hospital, Wheeling West Virginia, Jna. 20, 1920.
Alfred S. Parents James Crook B. Unknown Occupation in 1842 Tailor.
Harriet Burgess B. 1821 Tiverton, Somerset. Died Brookfield Ohio.
James and Harriet Married March 27, 1842 in the Parish Church @ St. George Hanover Square, County of Middlesex.
On Marriage certificate Residence at time of Marriage Conduit Street, Westminster.  Married after Banns. Wittnesses William Crisfield and Hannah Margaret Thorburn.
Father of James Crook Thomas Crook Birth unknown Occupation 1842 Clothworker.
Father of Harriet John Burgess B. unknown Occupation 1842 Clothworker.
I visted with a great Aunt a few years ago and according to Family history James was killed while serving in the Military.  I have not been able to confirm this information. She had claimed "the  Boys " were sent to the U.S to avoid serving in the Military. Ironic considering John served in the Civil War. 
I have been researching this family for 4 years and have had little luck in English research.  If you have any sugestions of where I might look PLEASE let me know.
Considering naming Patterns is it not odd that James and Harriet did not name any Children James or Thomas ? 
Thank you so much for the Help.
Again any where you can suggest .   It is a bit difficult living in the U.S.

Thank You

[Biker]

Hi Mary

Well, back to Edward living in Wiltshire, the head of the family is a Hand Loom Weaver (Woollen Cloth). So that may make sense with your fuller explanation possibly?

back in a minute
Jonathan

[Biker]

Mary

I'm not sure if this makes sense or a shot in the dark    But the name and occupation ...

1851 - 21 Endell Street, St Giles in the Fields, Finsbury

Thomas Crook, head, 48, Tailor, b. Plymouth (which is in Devon)
Priscilla, wife, 48,  b. ditto
Ellen, dau, 17, b. Bermondsey
Eliza, dau, 13, b. Middlesex St Clem? (possibly St Clements)
?? Ione??, 7, dau, b. Bermondsey


HO107/1508
Folio: 145 
Page: 36 


Any good?

Jonathan

[MaryCrook69]

Jonathan
No sense. What is a clothworker?  Can that be a step below a Tailor?  ::   Could Harriet"s Children benn living with realatives because James had Died?
I have looked at the BMD for a death record for James. NO Luck. Where else can I look.
Thank you SO much for your help. This Family is my Paternal main branch.
Mary

[Biker]

Hi Mary

Tailor is a profession really, though varied.  Cloth worker, well could mean anything really to do with the textile industry as it's not specific but a lower order than tailor I would imagine, but I would say those occupations are in the same line so to speak.

For James's death, you could look here http://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/LogonServlet it is a paysite but it is the complete index.  Also, it would be reasonably easy to narrow down the years to look at since Alfred was 1 in 1851 and Harriet was a widow at the time.

Hope that helps a bit.

Cheers
Jonathan

[MaryCrook69]

Hello Johnathan
  I am not in a position to acess the 1837 website.
I am very grateful for your help.
Mary