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Re: Fletcher Gypsy family
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 December 07 10:43 GMT (UK) »
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Any info is good info and tells a story..........at this rate quite a few of us will know quite a bit about Gypsy movements and families at this rate  ;D

What year is that census info? and can I have all the info on those that are with them please.........

Bryant  :P
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Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area).


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Re: Fletcher Gypsy family
« Reply #10 on: Friday 28 December 07 15:35 GMT (UK) »
Bryant

It was 1891...I was trying to find Hostin/Austin with Elizabeth Butler.

By the way ... I am a descendant of the Penfold/Orchard Gypsy family ... which includes ...Hughs, Hollands, Boswells etc etc .. so I definitely know how you feel when you can't find them .

 ;D ;D :D :D

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Fletcher Gypsy family
« Reply #11 on: Friday 28 December 07 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bryant

here are is the family that are with the davies in tents....

1891;
Herefordshire, welsh newton
Mannasseth BURTON head mar 40 Basket maker b Newport, Mon
Louisa wife 30 b Unknown
Bishop son 14 Basket maker b Unknown
Alice dau 12       "                       "
Dallora dau 10   "                       "
John saon 7       "                       "
H William son 5  "                      "
Dinah Lea widow, visitor 78 no occupation

next to everyone... Language spoken : English

Looks like Joseph Davies was born Lidny/Sidney?? Glos.

this Registration District is : Monmouth
Sub reg district: Dingestow

RG12/4341 fol 48 p 8

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Fletcher Gypsy family
« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 December 07 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bryant

i am just going to give you what I have found ..Hopefully you can match them to your people ...It gets quite confusing ...LOL

1881:
Collafield Green, Bottom of Sharpridge?
East Dean
3 gipsey tents
Pridy ? SMITH head wid wid 70 traveling gipseys
Faith Smith son 45
Lea Smith dau 25 dau mar
Keziah Smith dau 20 mar
Neptune? JOHNS nephew 22 mar
Tr?..n Smith dau law 21 mar
Mark Johns unm nephew 19
?? John dau law 10
Matthew BUTLER son-in-law 30 .... could he be related to Daniel and Elizabeth his dau?
Emma Butler dau unm 11
Simpy? Butler Unm 5
Matthew Butler 10m son
Bessie Butler dau 7
 Albert Butler son 7
Lindy Smith dau 2

phew !!  :D

deb   

ps I have found a Faith smith son ...in 1871 ...They don't seem to be the same family as above ..they are with the Herne Gypsies ....no Butlers around .
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Fletcher Gypsy family
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 December 07 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou deb

I said that Daniel was my, he wasn't it was Matthew.......I had those 1881 details but thankyou anyway........

The Fletcher's are the elusive ones..........I think I will close this post and open another as I have just found a Samuel Fletcher in 1861 in Cheltenham who is a wire worker with unusual childrens names!.............see where he leads me?

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Bryant
Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?)
Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area).


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Re: Fletcher Gypsy family (PLEASE CLOSE LOOKUP, THANKS)
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 September 20 10:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Bryant,
How did you link Elizabeth Butler (Eli Fletcher's partner) back to Matthew Butler who you say is her father.
I too believe this to be the case but am struggling to prove it.

Barney