Nicholas HARRY bC1834 St Stephen in Brannel

[Lazarus]

Good morning Deb
I need coffee.Still pretty early.
I have just emailed you the Will of Philippa (Lynam) Harry suggesting we might treat this as a fresh starting point.

I will review what you have found from the 1645 Will of John Harry.I think I pretty much agree with you and would like to consider your finds.

[Lazarus]

Deb
I have been looking at a site "Index to Historical Place Names of Cornwall"
http://cornovia.org.uk/ihpnc/ in the hope it might identify some of the place names we have difficulty in reading.No luck yet,but lots to look at.

With regard to the Will of John Harry 1645.
I think the marriage 15 Aug 1626 St Kew of Elizabeth Harry/Harris to George Bennett looks promising. ? we have the Harry/Harris/Harrie problem.

I think the George Bennett the younger could easily be the son of Elizabeth and George.
Also John Bennett may well be Johannes Bennett 1627 and Mary Bennett could be Maria Bennett 1634.

There is also mention of a Richard Bennett and John's grandchildren John and Mary Bennett,also George Bennett.

I agree that John's wife was Hon ,perhaps Honor or Honoria.

I have never been able to reason the variations Willimi,Willielmus,Johannis.
Someone once told me that a Bishops Clerk would sometimes attempt to write the names in Latin,hoping to impress the Bishop.

Was there a witness William Mathew Junior?

[deb usa]

Hi Rex ...

at first I thought the witness was William Mathew Jarvis ...but now I can see it is Junior...it is very difficult to read on the computer ,,,,

Who is the other witness above William Mathew?  It looks like Mary Mathews , but I don't think women were involve with documents/ wills in those days, unless it was theirs. It could also be Harry mathews ..?

i also see the executor is Jn Williams??

It also seems strange that John Harry and Honor/ia would only have one child .... who is the jenifer?

deb

will look at the place names link

[Lazarus]

Deb
I thought George Bennett Jnr was made executor.
Seems Mary (Bennett) is their only daughter (alive anyway).
I have a copy of the inventory of this Will.Looks as if the inventory was taken by Wm. and Andrew Matthew.
I will send you a copy.There is a place name I can't read.

[deb usa]

hi Rex

Whose name appears after 'executor' ...last  sentence ... looks like Jn someone ...

i think I found the christening of John Dagg...who was also Of st Kew ...tried to follow him to see if there were links to the Harry family ...alas Not

deb

[krisesjoint]

Hi Rex,

If you wish help in transcribing documents, I think it would be best to post a small section of the document to the common room. We have members who are very good at reading these documents. I am sorry but we can no longer follow this thread which seems to become a private discussion between 2 people, and after 12 pages I suggest it is time to bring it to a close and for you post separate, specific requests for the help you require or continue your discussion privately.

Thank You.

Cheers Kris 

[bilkeyfamily]

Did you ever get this sorted out?  I'm researching William Boscombe c. 1770 Withiel m. Jane Harry 1769 St kew on 27 Dec 1791 with Son John Boscombe 1800 St Kew and at least 4 other children.  I was told Jane Harry was the daughter of Richard Harry and Ann Lobb.  William Boscombe 1770 Withiel was the Son of John Buscombe 1734 Withiel? and Catherine Lobb St Breock.  Catherine Lobb was the daughter of Richard Lobb c. 1707 and Catherine Rescorla c. 1707 St Breock.  Any information you could provide me would be great.

Thanks,

Bill

Deb
Richard Harry and Ann Lobb had Children:
William bpt 15 Jul 1753 St Kew = 6 Apr 1774 Egloshayle Margaret Cooke
Jane bpt 6 Jul 1755 St Kew
Catherine bpt 22 May 1757 St Kew = 12 Oct 1776 St Breock, John Heard

Richard Harry  bpt 29 Jul 1740 St Mabyn and Ann/Anne Brown had children:
Jane bpt 7 Jun 1769 St Kew = 27 Dec 1791 William Boscombe
Mary bpt 1 Jan 1771 St Kew
Ann/Jane bpt 5 Nov 1772 St Kew d1846  / repitition of name also 1851 Census Chapple Amble aged 78 unmarried retired ladies maid.
John bpt 18 Jan 1775 St Kew
Margaret bpt 11 May 1777 St Kew
William bpt 7 Nov 1779 St Kew


William Harrey(sic) = 6 Apr 1774 Egloshayle, Margaret/Marjory Cook had children:
Richard bpt 1 Nov 1776 St Breock d19 Aug 1845 St Breock = Philippa Tremaine.
Jenny bpt 12 Sep 1779 St Breock  unmarried
William bpt 23 Feb 1783 = 15 Jan 1814 St Breock Catherine Heard
Jenefer bpt 9 Jul 1786 d17 Mar 1866 aged 79 unmarried.

[Lazarus]

Good morning Bill
My research of the Harry family is an ongoing project which I revisit from time to time.
The data you have quoted is absolutely consistant with what you have quoted.
Just exactly where your family fits in,I would like to follow up today.I have collected quite a lot of data and have supporting material in many cases.

Nicholas Harry bpt 9 Jan 1800 St Stephen in Brannel,bur.11 Aug 1846 St Mewan,married Jane /Jennifer Hammer 18 Nov 1822 St Mewan.They were my great great grandparents.
A son John Hammer Harry b1837 came to Australia.

Back in the 1700s my Harry family look to have been living in the vacinity of St Kew.
In particular a William Harry married Philippa Lynam.She was a widow and had been married to John Lynam.I believe her to be nee Hick(e)s.There were Harry children and Lynam children.

I have obtained a number of Harry Wills,some dating back to the 1600s.I will need to look these out again.
I have the 1764 Will of Richard Harry of St Kew.I think from memory he had married Ann Lobb.

I had noted that a Richard Harry b1740 (perhaps s/o John Harry and Mrs Margaret Hamley,married Ann Brown 14 Jun 1768 St Kew.I think it was a daughter of this marriage Jane who married William Boscombe.

I think it best that I examine what I have more thoroughly before responding to you in detail.
In the meantime could you let me know more about what you have.I think the records so far back are incomplete and it is a matter of constructing families from various sources.
I am happy that we must have a great deal to share.

Rex

[cornish-bill]

Nicholas Harry = Jane Hammer 18 Nov 1822 at St Mewan. The family were at West Boscundle, St Austell 1841 census.Nick 40, tin miner;Jane 35;Maria 15;William 12;Nicholas 7;
John 4;Sophia 2 months
By 1851 Nick is dead but the family is at Bucklers with another son Henry age 7