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Offline chilibear

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BUFS
« on: Monday 10 December 07 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Why would the BUFS have paid for my great grandfather's funeral?

He was David Slater, born ca 1857, Clay Cross or Pisley, Derbyshire.  He lived in Buckingham, Derbyshire, Sheffield, Nottingham and Leicester.

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Merrall, Ayres, Waterfield, Cotton - Leicester
Slater - Leicester, Derbyshire, Buckinghamshire
Blakey, Moult - Derbyshire

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Re: BUFS
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 December 07 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chilibear,

Could it have been a type of funeral savings club.:

            B..........U(Union/Universal?)    Funeral     Society? 

Possibly the BUFFS.....East Kent Regiment.


Where did you find the information?

Nanny Jan
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Re: BUFS
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 December 07 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nanny Jan,

My aunt told me (he was her father).  She thought that BUFS was a military organization and that maybe he was in the Boer war.  Just not sure when exactly and how I could confirm if this is true or not.

He is a bit of an enigma; there are lots of family stories about him and very little fact.

Chilibear
Merrall, Ayres, Waterfield, Cotton - Leicester
Slater - Leicester, Derbyshire, Buckinghamshire
Blakey, Moult - Derbyshire

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Re: BUFS
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 December 07 20:41 GMT (UK) »
Try

The Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes

'The Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes is a social and benevolent fraternal organisation open to men. Its aim is to aid members in need and their families, and the families of deceased members as well as to support other charitable groups.'

Founded in 1822

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Antediluvian_Order_of_Buffaloes

http://www.raobgle.org.uk/

http://www.raob.org/

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Re: BUFS
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 December 07 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Valda,

My great grandfather is accused of many things, but so far being on the stage is not one of them!

So not certain, but given his colorful life and ability to disappear it is not impossible.

Chilibear
Merrall, Ayres, Waterfield, Cotton - Leicester
Slater - Leicester, Derbyshire, Buckinghamshire
Blakey, Moult - Derbyshire

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Re: BUFS
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 December 07 19:08 GMT (UK) »
The 'Buffaloes' origins were theatrical but the society very soon outgrew that (apart from the name that is).

'The origins of the Order were in the theatrical fraternity of the 1820's. It was, it seems, born out of the need for social activity. As time went on the Order grew and spread becoming active in philanthropic works. It opened orphanages, readily took its place in the community and accepted its responsibilities towards the needs of its members.'

The 'Buffalo' I researched who died in the early part of the C20th was a grocer. He was also a member of 'The Ancient Order of Foresters' which was a 'friendly society'.

'Prior to the Welfare State these societies were often the only way a working person had to receive help in times of ill health, or old age. In the days when having no income normally meant a life of begging or living in the poorhouse the importance of Friendly Societies to their members and the tremendous social service they provided cannot be over stated.'

So being a member of a Friendly and/or Benevolent society which was what the Buffaloes were was very important to a lot of men knowing that the society would always look after their family and make sure they would never face a pauper's burial.

'In the early days of the R.A.O.B. it is clear that there must have been members who were also members of the various Masonic Orders since there is much in R.A.O.B. ritual and regalia which can be identified as being Masonic in origin as well as from other societies.
Today there are many who enjoy membership both as a Mason and as a Buffalo. Some holding quite senior and important positions of Office in both Orders.'


'The first, and possibly the most important fact, is that there are no contractual or insurance elements attached to membership of the Order. Grants from benevolent funds at any level, are not related to what you give but to what you need, and exactly the same principle applies to the services we give in our Convalescent Homes.'

'Membership of a Lodge of the Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes is open to all adult males without distinction as to social position, religious faiths or political beliefs. Before a candidate is accepted, he has to convince the members of the Lodge in which his application is made that he is a loyal citizen and that he is genuinely desirous of taking part in our work. On the basis of giving to the extent of his power, in cash or in service, whatever is required to meet the needs of a less fortunate Brother or the dependant widow and children of a deceased Brother.'

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Valda
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Re: BUFS
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 December 07 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Valda,

I shall have to ask my aunt if it sounds familiar.

Do they have archives somewhere?

Chilibear
Merrall, Ayres, Waterfield, Cotton - Leicester
Slater - Leicester, Derbyshire, Buckinghamshire
Blakey, Moult - Derbyshire

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 December 07 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chilibear

I never had a great deal of success tracking down their records but I searched back in the 1990s before their websites appeared so I would email the order and ask.

I found out the man I was researching was a member since his funeral was mentioned in the local newspaper.

'...He had been a member of the Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes for a quarter of century, and was of the oldest members of the Albert Social Club. In his younger days Mr..... carried on the business of a grocer in London, where he was for over 30 years a member of the Ancient Order of Druids...'

Sorry my memory played me up a little there and I confused the Ancient Order of Foresters with The Ancient Order of Druids (another Benevolent Society - some of whose 'lodges' even had female members!)

'...Members of the R.A.O.B. and the Albert Social Club followed the cortege..'

I never did establish at the time what the 'Albert Social Club' was and whether it was just local to the area of Hampshire the man was living in, but you have spurred me on to check it out just now on the internet and apparently ithe club is still there in Fleet, 80 years on from the date of the newspaper.

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Valda
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Re: BUFS
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 January 08 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi chilibear
only just found this!
As mentioned on here earlier about the origans of the R.A.O.B Known more as the Buffaloes.
Their could be a reason that it was paid for by his Lodge because he "the brother" and dependents had no means for payment.
All lodges have a benevalant fund for such needs.
Are you sure they paid for it and not caried out the funeral ceremony "Buffs Funeral" Where all the brothers in the loge  and other lodges stand around the coffin and drop Ivy leaves with the "funeral marshal" doing the ceremony ?
This is very common and still done today! In fact I am going to A Buff funeral next Thursday.
The Buffs are not a poor mans masons as some seem to think.
We are just ordinary people in all walks of life who enjoy meeting on a social meeting and raising money "from within" to help the less fortunate brother and the local community.
As to what records survive depends on the lodge and Province (Area) and Banner The only thing Grand Lodge would have are his details of Initiation and if he obtained any higher degree! There are 4,  Degees.
If you know the name of the Lodge I might be able to help a tiny bit because I have copied old directories of loge names for a few years.
attached is a picture of a buff funeral in which I was helping to work out the lodge!
Whittenbury All
Banks Smith Broomhall Willenhall
Perrin birmingham
Van-De-Putte Belgium
mills fairford