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Re: Help please - Swedish Records
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 02 June 16 22:35 BST (UK) »
Perhaps Charles wasn't actually Swedish. Jacob's occupation of "contractor" is interesting. Could Jacob and his wife moved to Sweden for work?
I agree thay Lawson could be Larsson, but the mother's name made me wonder.
  Quite possible I suppose but it is the way the newspaper announcement reads - 'third son of Jacob Lawson of Stockholm, Sweden'.    Then there is also another Trove notice which tells of the Death of a Peter Lawson, native of Sweden - in Tasmania.    He could be one of the other sons.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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« Reply #19 on: Friday 03 June 16 00:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Malcolm33

Do you have any background info on him.... children, when he arrived etc. Do you have the links from Trove.

Ian


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« Reply #20 on: Friday 03 June 16 01:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Malcolm33

Do you have any background info on him.... children, when he arrived etc. Do you have the links from Trove.
Also was his wife's maiden name Trenwith?

Ian
   Hi Ian,   Unfortunately no idea when he or his family arrived.   I guess the only clue will be on his death cert - confess not having looked for that yet.   I can rule out the Jacob Lawson in SA as his wife was Bridget.   The trove marriage announcement is here - http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44213869?searchTerm="Jacob Lawson"&searchLimits= 
   Charles' son Percy was born in Carlton in 1899 according to his marriage certificate.   So it could be that Charles had already gone to Melbourne and just went back to Broken Hill to get married.   Malcolm
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Help please - Swedish Records
« Reply #21 on: Friday 03 June 16 02:43 BST (UK) »
Have you checked for naturalization records? If he was a Swedish native, he could have become a naturalized Australian.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.


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« Reply #22 on: Friday 03 June 16 06:45 BST (UK) »
Have you checked for naturalization records? If he was a Swedish native, he could have become a naturalized Australian.
I have had a look at the index and couldn't find any for Jacob but quite a few for Charles though got nothing more when I clicked on the reference numbers.
 If I could just identify a death but have found nothing for Jacob or Maude.  There is one for a Charles Lawson in Victoria in 1916 but nothing there to indicate if he is the right one.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Help please - Swedish Records
« Reply #23 on: Friday 03 June 16 07:15 BST (UK) »
What is your connection to this family? The Lawson or Trenwith family?
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

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« Reply #24 on: Friday 03 June 16 07:41 BST (UK) »
What is your connection to this family? The Lawson or Trenwith family?
   My late wife who died in 2007 was Edith May Lawson, grand-daughter of Charles Lawson who married Maude Trenwith.    Ede's sons and daughter know next to nothing about their family history so am trying to help them out.    In the 19 years we were married Ede had no idea where her Lawsons came from.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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« Reply #25 on: Friday 03 June 16 07:53 BST (UK) »
Have you traced the Trenwith side? The reason I ask is twofold. I can't see a Maud Mary Trenwith born c.1877, but I can see a Mary Edith Trenwith born 1876 at Payneham, with the same parents. It is the only birth entry for this couple.
The other reason is I have a John Trenwith who came to SA from Cornwall, with his wife and family in 1847. John's wife Caroline was my 2x great grandmother's sister.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

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« Reply #26 on: Friday 03 June 16 08:17 BST (UK) »
  I have been looking mostly in New South Wales and Victoria for both the Lawsons and Trenwiths with no luck at all for birth marriage or death.   I tried the SA site a bit but found it a bit difficult to navigate compared with the other States.
   Not sure about Maude May possibly being Mary Edith, but then one never knows what to expect with name changes.   Ede's Dad is listed most places as Percival or Percival William but went by the name of Tommy - turned out to be his third name.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields