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NSW/VIC lookup please
« on: Saturday 08 December 07 05:33 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find a death for Mary Anne Gibbs who married Thomas Winnel/Winnell in 1899 in Wagga Wagga.
There are several possible births for her so at this stage I am unsure who her parents are.

These are the possible births:

16811/1872     GIBBS      MARY ANN     FREDERICK             MARY               RICHMOND        
16822/1872    GIBBS     MARY ANN    GEORGE                    JANE                RICHMOND      
2151/1873     GIBBS      MARY A E       JOHN WILLIAM    ANNIE             SYDNEY      

There is another Mary:

3719/1879      GIBBS     MARY          JOHN WILLIAM       ANN                   SYDNEY   

which is almost identical to the one above for John William and Annie. I have seen a number of cases now where children are named after older siblings which have died so I'm wondering if that has happened here which would discount the 3rd Mary, narrowing the Mary I am looking for down to the first two.

To make it even more interesting Thomas's brother Samuel Joseph, married Ethel A Gibbs in 1902.
At first I though maybe 2 sisters had married 2 brothers but when I searched for a birth for Ethel Gibbs this is all I found:

27810/1886      GIBBS      ETHEL A      EDWARD N      ELIZABETH MCC      WAGGA WAGGA 

So perhaps rather than sisters the girls were cousins?

Thomas died in 1924, perhaps Mary remarried?
At least one of the children went to Victoria, maybe Mary followed him there?

Also, while we are on this family, can anyone find any other children for Thomas and Mary?
So far I have found:

Grace, b 1900, ?
Thomas R, b 1903, Wagga Wagga
Ena, b 1906, Murrumburrah
Joseph Norman, b 1914, Leeton NSW

Any help would be much appreciated :)

thanks,
Belinda.
Boake Carter: Dublin Ire. - Williamstown VIC Corbet(t): Northern Ire. - Creswick VIC Croak/Croke/Croker: Kilkenny Ire. - Creswick Hob(b)el: Salzgitter Germany - Talbot VIC Mulford: London UK - Williamstown VIC Mitchell: Kildare Ire. - Lilydale VIC Orenshaw: Uttoxeter UK - Creswick Rischmuller: Gottingen Germany - Ballarat VIC Smedley: Derbyshire UK - Kilmore VIC Wassmann: Salzgitter Ward: Tipperary Ire - Creswick VIC.

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Re: NSW/VIC lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 December 07 05:59 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there Belinda

a  death  in Victoria for  you

MARY ANN WINNELL Died in 1968 aged 88 at Oaklands reg no 22481

father Edmund Gibbs  mother Ann McCrudden

will  look around  for  her birth

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Re: NSW/VIC lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 December 07 06:00 GMT (UK) »
ok
that's interesting!

thanks Jenn.
Boake Carter: Dublin Ire. - Williamstown VIC Corbet(t): Northern Ire. - Creswick VIC Croak/Croke/Croker: Kilkenny Ire. - Creswick Hob(b)el: Salzgitter Germany - Talbot VIC Mulford: London UK - Williamstown VIC Mitchell: Kildare Ire. - Lilydale VIC Orenshaw: Uttoxeter UK - Creswick Rischmuller: Gottingen Germany - Ballarat VIC Smedley: Derbyshire UK - Kilmore VIC Wassmann: Salzgitter Ward: Tipperary Ire - Creswick VIC.

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 December 07 06:08 GMT (UK) »
Jenn that tip was all the info I needed to find this:

26575/1884      GIBBS   ELIZABETH M      EDMOND NORMAN   ELIZABETH     WAGGA WAGGA     
35357/1891    GIBBS    WALTER N       EDMUND    ELIZABETH            WAGGA WAGGA      
8642/1880    GIBBS    MARY A                   EDMUND       ELIZABETH                          ALBURY      
36120/1893    GIBBS    LANGLEY V    EDMUND N    ELIZABETH    WAGGA WAGGA      
7398/1878    GIBBS    CHARLES A    EDMUND N    ELIZABETH    ALBURY      
21350/1876    GIBBS    HENRY EDMUND    EDMUND NORMAN    ELIZABETH WAGGA WAGGA      
27927/1889    GIBBS    EDMUND L J    EDMUND W    ELIZABETH    WAGGA WAGGA      
27810/1886    GIBBS    ETHEL A    EDWARD N    ELIZABETH MCC    WAGGA WAGGA      

Looks like I was right about 2 sisters marrying 2 brothers!

thanks
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Boake Carter: Dublin Ire. - Williamstown VIC Corbet(t): Northern Ire. - Creswick VIC Croak/Croke/Croker: Kilkenny Ire. - Creswick Hob(b)el: Salzgitter Germany - Talbot VIC Mulford: London UK - Williamstown VIC Mitchell: Kildare Ire. - Lilydale VIC Orenshaw: Uttoxeter UK - Creswick Rischmuller: Gottingen Germany - Ballarat VIC Smedley: Derbyshire UK - Kilmore VIC Wassmann: Salzgitter Ward: Tipperary Ire - Creswick VIC.


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 December 07 06:09 GMT (UK) »
oops, missed one

36210/1897      GIBBS      HAROLD T      EDMUND N      ELIZABETH      WAGGA WAGGA
Boake Carter: Dublin Ire. - Williamstown VIC Corbet(t): Northern Ire. - Creswick VIC Croak/Croke/Croker: Kilkenny Ire. - Creswick Hob(b)el: Salzgitter Germany - Talbot VIC Mulford: London UK - Williamstown VIC Mitchell: Kildare Ire. - Lilydale VIC Orenshaw: Uttoxeter UK - Creswick Rischmuller: Gottingen Germany - Ballarat VIC Smedley: Derbyshire UK - Kilmore VIC Wassmann: Salzgitter Ward: Tipperary Ire - Creswick VIC.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 December 07 06:11 GMT (UK) »
Marriage:

 4038/1874      GIBBS      EDWARD      MACRUDDEN      ELIZABETH      WAGGA WAGGA
Boake Carter: Dublin Ire. - Williamstown VIC Corbet(t): Northern Ire. - Creswick VIC Croak/Croke/Croker: Kilkenny Ire. - Creswick Hob(b)el: Salzgitter Germany - Talbot VIC Mulford: London UK - Williamstown VIC Mitchell: Kildare Ire. - Lilydale VIC Orenshaw: Uttoxeter UK - Creswick Rischmuller: Gottingen Germany - Ballarat VIC Smedley: Derbyshire UK - Kilmore VIC Wassmann: Salzgitter Ward: Tipperary Ire - Creswick VIC.

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 December 07 06:12 GMT (UK) »
All the spelling mistakes on the registries sure complicate things for us family history researchers  ::)
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 December 07 06:13 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this is his birth:

 V18513152 37A/1851      GIBBS      EDWARD      CHARLES      LYDIA      
Boake Carter: Dublin Ire. - Williamstown VIC Corbet(t): Northern Ire. - Creswick VIC Croak/Croke/Croker: Kilkenny Ire. - Creswick Hob(b)el: Salzgitter Germany - Talbot VIC Mulford: London UK - Williamstown VIC Mitchell: Kildare Ire. - Lilydale VIC Orenshaw: Uttoxeter UK - Creswick Rischmuller: Gottingen Germany - Ballarat VIC Smedley: Derbyshire UK - Kilmore VIC Wassmann: Salzgitter Ward: Tipperary Ire - Creswick VIC.

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Re: NSW/VIC lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 December 07 06:14 GMT (UK) »
Yes Belinda spelling errors  are  the bane of any  genealogist.

Not only  could  the register make  mistakes  but often  the informant wasn't aware of  the correct spelling.

Glad you  have now  sorted  this  out.

kind regards Jenn
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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