ayr deaths 1820 to1854 vol 13

[gefling]

Hi McCann...I'm rather new to this and not very computer literate so please bear with me! My Mother was Maria Mackay;her father was John Mackay who was born in Ayr in1871;his parents were Alexander Mackay who was born in1833 and died on Nov.11th,1911 in Govan,Glasgow and Ann Muir McJanet who was born on South Corton Farm,Ayr on July,17th,1834 and,herself too,died in Govan onApril29th,1914. They were married on Jan.18th,1858.
Ann or Annie was the daughter of William McJanet,1790-1866,and Euphemia Muir,1792-1874.Ann was born on her maternal grandfather's farm which,incidently,was adjacent to Mt.Oliphant of Robert Burns fame!
This grandfather was Gabriel Muir,1768-1832,and his wife was Euphemia Baird who died in 1846.
Ann's father,William,was,also,a farmer who died in Maybole. His father was,also,William and his Mother was Margaret Bryan.
The Alexander whom Ann married was born in Armadale in 1833. His parents were Alexander,1790-1855 and Mary Tunnock,1793-1857. Both died in Wallacetown.
I'm sure you will have most of this information already but what excited me was that you appeared to be researching my Mother's family!
My Mother was one of six-Alexander[1912-1914];Maria[1915-2007];John[1917-1965];William[1920-1992];Robert[1924-1993] and Annie[1928-2002].
Look forward to hearing from you and thankyou so much for taking time to reply....Gefling.

[McCann]

Well Gefling.  It looks as though we are third cousins (or something like that). Your mother, Maria, and my grandmother, Mary, were first cousins.  Mary's father is Robert Steele MacKay who happens to be John G. MacKay's brother!

I did have most of the information you provided, except that I did not know William McJanet's (married to Margaret Bryan) father was William.  And I did not have some of the place information you provided.   

I have some dates and information that you didn't have as well.  I have Alexander MacKay's parents and Mary Tunnock's parents.  Also, I have a copy of Mary Tunnock's settlement (Will).  In fact, I have copies of most of the birth, marriage, or death entries.  I can send you everything I have if you would like.  I also got in touch with someone who was distantly related to Gabriel Muir.  His brother, Andrew came to the U.S. and wrote Gabriel a letter.  That letter is now in a museum in Minnesota (or some place like that).  She provided me with a transcript of the letter.  It was great to have some evidence of the history. 

Anyway, my email address is (*).  If you would like to email me, I will send you everything I have. 

I look forward to hearing from you, cousin Gefling.

Sincerely,  McCann.

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[gefling]

Hi Cousin McCann...this is all so interesting! I would be very interested in the information you have. The Web Site has removed your e-mail address and suggest I use PM.However,I can't use that just yet as I am too new a member...catch 22! I will work on it,though.
My Mother,Maria,used to say that Alexander Mackay[Robert's Father]was a Sherrif in Ayr but I think that rather unlikely! Maria's brother Bob was called after your Robert which suggests that John Graham Mackay was very fond of his wee brother.
Thank-you again for all your time...it is much appreciated.
Best wishes,Gefling.

[McCann]

I agree.  This is all very interesting.  We'll get in direct touch eventually.  Do you have any pictures of your grandfather, John, and his family?  My grandmother followed my mom to the States in the 60's; so she left most of her personal stuff in Glasgow.  I have a few black and whites of her and her husband, but other than that, all I really have are contemporary pictures.

The information I have has Alexander as a wood labourer, cutter, merchantile clerk, and by the time of his death...a law clerk.  His father Alexander was an Inspector of the Poor and Merchant.
As you seem to be aware, mostly farmers on the other side (McJanet/Muir side).

I'll go back through and see what other interesting information I have.

Talk to you soon.
McCann

 

[gefling]

Hi McCann...I have some photographs,too. I have a really grainy one of Susan Mackay who was the youngest girl. I,also,have a small[what looks like a passport photo]photo of Robert Mackay's son John. I am sure I have a photo of Ann McJannet as an old lady and some of my grandfather,John,but,again, as an older man. I'm going to have to get some help from the younger family members in how I get them to you!
Alexander Mackay's father was a William Mackay who married Susanna Finlayson in 1789. According to the notes left by my mother,they were married in Haddington  in East Lothian.William was born in 1768 whilst Susanna was born in 1770. Again,they were farmers. Her notes then include a Susanna with no surname who married a Richard Watkins in 1770 and then,a Susanna Craig who married an Alexander Cockburne in 1743. My Mother's notes don't explain these people though could this be the starting point for the ubiquitious name Alexander?!
Alexander Mackay[1833]had a bit of a drouth..he drank too much. As a result,Ann McJanet struggled to bring up her family.She seems to have been a feisty wee lady much loved by her children.
I would love to know what happened to your Robert. All of the family seem to have left Ayrshire no doubt looking for work in Glasgow. My John became a shipwright in the Glasgow yards. My Mother,always,said the Mackays were a clever family! I'm sure she was right!
Best wishes,Gefling.

[McCann]

Hi Gefling.  I sent you a personal message on Friday.  I suppose you didn't get it.  When I sent it, though, there was no error message so I was hoping for the best.  I'll try again.

Anyway, I am excited to hear that you do have some pictures and would love to see copies when you can get some assitance (and when we can finally manage to communicate directly).  As promised, I will send you all that I have as well.  I do have a copy of the marriage entry for William and Susanna - January 17, 1768, Parish of Humbie, East Lothian.  I didn't have William's birth year or Susanna's birth year (thank you).  I will see if I can find more information on them with that information.  Although I do have that Susanna was from Ormiston, Haddington.  It is wonderful to hear personal stories of the family.  It has all been names and dates on paper until now.   

Robert moved to Govan (lived at 49 Copland Road), married Mary Bain Cook in 1901 (at the Stanley House, South Avenue, Govan) and worked as an engine fitter.  He died in 1920 (at 44) at the Gartlich Asylum, Eastern District of Cadder.   I'll check with my mom to see if she has any personal stories to share.   Their children were Mary (my grandmother) Robert, John and Aleck. 
Are you and your family in Glasgow?

I will try to send you another personal message now. 

All the best!
McCann

[florabrooks]

Hi Donna  If you are still offering would it be possible to look up any Lees family.


Really greatful in advance

Flora

[margmasson]

Hello Donna,
               Do you have any Pollock in your book?
                 Many thanks 
                                      Marg.

[sarenid]

Donna

Could you please look and see whether there is a Wilhelmina Taylor married name Whyte/White born Kippen abt 1792.  She was alive in Ayr in 1851 married to a william Wyte/white but deceased by 1861 as William white is a widower living with his daughter in 1861.  I don't know when she died between those dates but I can find no record in the statutory death records after 1855 so I think she must have died before then.   many thanks

Sara