How many Convicts are you descended from?

[Lady Di]

No apology necessary Jean.

A few of my ancestors are also buried in and around the area. I know it well 

Regards
Di

[trish251]

Awww J A P - - would you like to just adopt a convict 

I understand that your Hall family have some connection to THE Ben Hall - if they haven't, a little white lie wouldn't hurt.

Fact always ruins a good story!!

Di

Although Jean doesn't agree, I think it's a great idea  - think of all the time future family historians will spend trying to prove/disprove an association. I have spent many enjoyable hours/days/weeks disproving all the family stories passed on to me (& proving the ones I was never told about).   

Trish

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Hi Jean - no worries - One of my family stories related to Ben Hall - my g grandfather supposedly kept a "hide out" stacked with food to provide sustenance for Ben and others. This was a very quick one to disprove - my man didn't arrive in Australia until 1885!!

Merry Christmas to you too     

[Lady Di]

Isn't it amazing how people make up all these stories but get the basic facts wrong 

I still have one final "unknown" in my Oz family tree who (I believe) made up the most unbelievable fantastic stories and unfortunately I have been unable to prove or disprove any of them. If he was right - he was richer than the Queen, if he was telling "porkies" - he probably was descended from (another!!) convict. What are the chances?

Di

[PippaNZ]

To Redmr2red, I am descendant of John Marsden Snr too. I found this out recently. Jane his daughter was 8th generation back. There are a number of us in NZ. Pipp

[chinka]

     I am a direct descendant of 10 convicts.They were all transported to NSW.Of these 8 were married couples.Only 2 didnt marry fellow convicts,but married free settlers.But the son of one of these married the daughter of convicts.There is a lot of intermarrying with other convict families thus so many in my family tree.
                                                   Chinka

[Keitht]

Hi all,

What a fantastic thread.

My third great grandfather, George Chatterley, had hung on the edge of my tree for a number of years before I received an enquiry from an Aussie researcher who asked whether he was the George Chatterley who arrived in Oz aboard the Lady Castlereagh in 1818. I didn't know but the information my Aussie contact was offering tied in with what I had so I started on a long and truly rematkable historical quest which finally uncovered a gang of note forgers who had operated here in Birmingham, England, from about 1806 until it came crashing down in 1817 and George, among others, was sentenced to transportation for 14 years, ending up in TAS. His wife remarried, bigamously, two years later.

I now have a mass of information on George but the one thing which eludes me is the cause of his death on 18 Sep 1822. He was buried in Hobart two days later. Please can anyone help me complete the puzzle?

Keith

[johngirl]

Hi Keith if you click onto the link below it will take you to Tasmanian Names Index.In the search bar (next to where it says All Fields)at the top of the page write George Chatterley and then click onto the red magnifying glass next to it and it will give you two records to view of George.One is his convict records and the other his death record.No information of how he died 

http://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/

 Johngirl 

[majm]

.... finally uncovered a gang of note forgers who had operated here in Birmingham, England, from about 1806 until it came crashing down in 1817 and George, among others, was sentenced to transportation for 14 years, ending up in TAS. His wife remarried, bigamously, two years later.

Bigamous marriages have been discussed at length at RChat, particularly when one of the parties has been sentenced to transportation beyond the seas for seven years or more.   May I please suggest that the marriage had effectively ended with that 1817 sentence, and that the injured party (ie George's wife) may have been married the second time, without fear of being charged with bigamy....

See the following link
http://www.aifs.gov.au/institute/seminars/finlay.html

And from the same author  (A Professor of Law) :

"Also, in 1820, the Reverend John Youl stated that there was a general belief among the convicts that 'those who had been transported to this country are released from their matriomonial engagements'."   from one paragraph (on page 27), of a reference text : 
To Have But Not to Hold: A History of Attitudes to Marriage and Divorce in Australia 1858-1975 9781862875425
 https://www.federationpress.com.au/bookstore/book.asp?isbn=9781862875425#bookcontents
https://www.federationpress.com.au/pdf/EvattsSpeech.pdf

I now have a mass of information on George but the one thing which eludes me is the cause of his death on 18 Sep 1822. He was buried in Hobart two days later. Please can anyone help me complete the puzzle?

Civil registrations of BDM events commence in VDL in 1837, so you will only find a burial register rather than a death certificate giving a certified cause of death.

The Burial register for St Davids (C of E), Hobart, is available online, free to search, via Tasmania Archives and Johngirl has given you that live link 

George Chatterly, died 18th September (1822), buried 20th September,  40 years of age, arrived on the Lady Castlereagh, he was under a current sentence of a court (“Convict”)., and the Rev Knopwood performed the burial.

Have you searched the digitised newspapers from that era?

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y   
Hobart Town Gazette and Van Diemen’s Land Advertiser
Hobart Town Gazette and Southern Reporter

Cheers,  JM
 

[ausdixie]

I have four convicts, looking for more