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Offline trish251

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #54 on: Monday 10 December 07 10:33 GMT (UK) »

Been following this thread because my 4xgreat-grandfather (and his son, my gggg-uncle) were transported for animal theft - found the ships they went on, and the dates, but do envy those of you who have found out so much more.

My real query here is - how do I find the Dublin census? I didn't know it was online either.

Thanks - this could answer a lot of Irish questions - I'm shaking with anticipation!!
Lesley

I tried Google and found this - I don't know if there are other places to search

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #55 on: Monday 10 December 07 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Also, as taid (Anne) said in an earlier post, there's a link to the census from the webpage she gave us.  That's how I found it.  Good luck, Lesley!

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #56 on: Monday 10 December 07 12:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that - it could open a few more doors, so I'm very grateful for the link.
Lesley

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 11 December 07 07:28 GMT (UK) »
I have 8 convicts in a direct line from my dad's mother, and numerous other convicts. Some married a brother/sister of the direct line.  I also have ship crew on the ships and the convicts were on. Funny you should mention "Irish". I think I am about to inherit a few more.

Direct Line Convicts
Jane Walker - Marquis Cornwallis
Mary Hook - Lady Juiliana
William Kentwell - Admiral Barrington
Elizabeth Morris - Mary Ann
Samuel James - Perseus
Reuben Buckner - Pitt
Humphrey Thorn - Neptune
Rebecca Richards - Mary Ann

Sideways Convicts
James Beckett - Surprise
George Best - William & Ann
Ann Calcut - Neptune
Martha Chamberlain - Indespensible
Sophia James - Experiment
Patrick Kirk - Atlas
William Ruston  -  Coromandel 1

Suspected Convicts
Edward Herrington - Edward Threader

Hello Mrs Aussie Karrob,

I noticed that we have a few convicts who were transported on the same ships, ie., 'Surprize', 'William and Ann', 'Indispensible' and yet another on the 'Admiral Barrington' and here we are over 200 years later, discussing them on Rootschat 8)

Margaret

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ARCHIBALD/ADAMS/BROWN/GORDON/WILSON/Midlothian
CADDY/COPPIN/DENITHORNE/GEDYE/GIDDEY/GROWDEN/THOMAS/Cornwall
CAREY,CARRÉ Huguenot/France/Kent/NZ/NSW
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
CORNWELL/Kent/NSW 
EATON/Lon/NSW    
MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
McLEOD/THOMSON/E Lothian
QUINN/Kilkenny
TUCK/HART/Mdx/Esx
VICCARS/ Lond/Northamps/Hunts


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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 11 December 07 07:48 GMT (UK) »
It's a small world, Margaret!  :)  Makes me reflect on whether convicts from the same ship ever saw much of each other once they landed.  I guess their circumstances would have made this difficult!

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 11 December 07 08:39 GMT (UK) »
I suppose some of the convicts "saw each other" after they landed. They married each other..hahaha. Most of them it seems into my family tree....
Abingdon, Eastleach, Soham, Hereford
Mott, Davy, Tuckwell, Herrington, Sparrow, Thorn, Kentwell, James, Humm, Bean, Yarton.
Convicts: Buckner, Thorn, Richards, Kentwell, Morris, James, Walker, Hook, Calcut

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 11 December 07 09:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Belinda

I have 5 convicts in family tree

David Smith (John Barry 1818) and Ann Davis (Roslin Castle 1830) (both convicts) were married in 1832 with permission in Sydney NSW. Interestingly William Jaques the Surveyor General came out on the same ship as Ann Davis and took her on as a servant. William Jaques was in regular contact with David Smith, the first white settler in Kiama and wrote a letter of reccomendation for them to be married. Ann served less than 2 years of her sentance.

William Hanson(Gilmore II 1838) and Susannah Swigg (Lloyds 1845) (both convicts) were married in 1849 with permission in Hobart TAS.

Charles Davidson (Lady Nugent 1836) from Scotland

Buckinghamshire - Dickins, Sinfield, Gascoigne
Devon - Swigg, Prinn
Durham - Spence
Rutland - Weston
Leicestershire - Bail, Matthews, Hancock, Rodwell
Glousctershire - Clissold, Butt
Norfolk - Holley, Drew, Wing, Childs, Gudgeon, Porter
Northampton - Boyes, Worron
London - Norton, Ross
Suffolk - Freeman, Fenton
Sussex - Coleman, Lewry, Susan
Warwickshire - Hanson, Baylis
Yorkshire - Horsfall, Stott
Banff Scotland - Davidson
Tyrone Ireland - Robinson
Clare Ireland - Lenane, Ford

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 12 December 07 05:06 GMT (UK) »
All of the branches on my father-in-law's side (5th generation in Australia on the oldest branch) have a convict as the first arrival in Australia, apart from one wife - and she came on a bounty ship from Ireland in 1841, which means we have not been able to find out anything about her before she stepped off the ship.  :(

The records for the convict  ancestors are pretty good, even down to the physical descriptions and with a newspaper article in one case which paints a vivid picture of that particular ancestor and the place he lived in.

So we're really happy to have this information, especially with the brick walls we've encountered for the other 'free' arrivals. We're pretty sure that my father-in-law's family and his parents' generation knew nothing about their convict heritage though.  ;)

Jojosam

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Re: How many Convicts are you descended from?
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 12 December 07 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that's one of the many reasons to celebrate having a convict or two in one's ancestry, jojosam - so much info, and often as you say so little about the ones who came free!!

It was such a shameful secret, having a convict or two in one's past, once upon a time.  My two were deeply buried and unknown until a cousin dug them up (metaphorically!!!)

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