LYALL/LEMMON

[Blandy]

Hello,
I am new to this group and a fairly new beginner at family research so any help would be greatly appreciated...I am researching a family line of:
Charles W LYALL b:1879 MacDuff, Banff (Fireman Cooper) who married Eliza Maggie Sim LEMMON b:1879 MacDuff, Banff. They were living at 2 Simpson Place, Banff in the 1901 Census

Any information greatly accepted.
Isabel, Australia. 

[wozzle]

dont't know if you have these
1881
alexander.c.lyall age 33. b. macduff,banff. occ. fisherman. head.
margaret lyall age 32. b. ditto. wife.
charles.w.lyall age 2. b. ditto. son.
living at 32a,low shore,gamrie,banff.
reg.dist. banff.

[wozzle]

1891
alexander.c. lyall age 41. b. macduff,banff. occ. fisherman. head.
margaret age 41. b. ditto. wife.
charles william lyall age 12. b. ditto. son.
margaret.a. age 5. b. ditto. daughter.
alexander.c. age 3. b. ditto. son.
living at 34,low shore,gamrie,banff.

[hume]

Hello Isabel,

wozzle has kindly given the details for 1881 - 1891. It seems Charles William's birth was registered in Banff in 1878. You will be able to get this certificate from ScotlandsPeople. It will give you his parents' names and marriage date; however, you may want to get the certificate anyway as this will give you their parents.

hume24

[runningbear]

hi isabel,

hope the boys do not mind me joining the thread?

i am just wondering if alexander born 1848 was the son of alexander and jane cormack?

now if he was...

then jane cormack was christened 30/3/1809 rathven, banff and was the daughter of james and margaret thomson.

alexander was born 13/6/1807 gamrie(macduff) and was the son of james and barbara sinclair.

alexander and jane married gamrie, 20/10/1832.

1841 census- roperie street, macduff

alexander...age 35...fisherman
jane...age 30
barbara...age 7
james...age 6
george...age 3
jane...age 8 months

1851 census- 33 low shore, macduff

alexander...age 43...fisherman
jane...age 40
barbara...age 16
james...age 14
george...age 9
jane...age 7
andrew...age 5
william...age 4
alexander...age 3 (yours)
john...age 1

1861 census-30 low shore

alexander...age 53...fisherman
jane...age 54
barbara...age 27
james...age 25...fisherman
jane...age 19
andrew..age 17...fisherman
wiliam...age 15
alexander...age 13
john...age 11

1871 census- 28 low shore

alexander...age 63...fisherman
jane...age 64
barbara...age 37...domestic duties
jane...age 29...domestic duties
william...age 25...fisherman
alexander...age 23...fisherman
john...age 21...fisherman
jane hunter...age 5...grand-daughter (dau of jane and john hunter)

1881 census- 28 low shore

alexander...age 71...fisherman
jane...age 71
barbara...age 46...domestic duties
john...age 28...fisherman
jane hunter...age 15...grand-daughter

1891 census- 33 low shore

alexander...age 84
barbara...age 56...fish seller
jane hunter...age 25...domestic duties...grand-daughter

and your alexander.....

1901 census- 34 low shore

alexander...age 52...foreman fish worker
margaret...age 52
margaret...age 15
alexander...age 13


Joe

[Blandy]

Thank you, thank you, thank you to all off you...and yes this information is the right family...you have saved me hours of work and I am happy to get the certificates from Scotlandspeople.

Joe, I had Alexander LYALL 1808 Macduff and Jane 1807 Banff, Banffshire but did not have a last name for Jane...so many thanks.
My line I am researching is:
Alexander b: 13 /6/1807 and Jane Cormack 30/3/1809(thanks to Joe)
They had Alexander C LYALL 1848 who married Margaret WEST  1849 Macduff (don't have a marriage date).
Alexander and Margaret  had Charles W LYALL 1879 Macduff who married Eliza Maggie Sim LEMMON b: 1876 Banff on the 14 Dec 1899 Banff.
Charles and Eliza had Charles W LYALL b: 20 Nov 1900 @ 2 Simpson Pl, Macduff who married Hilda URQUHART b: 12 May 1905 @ 35 Boyndie St, Banff on the 23 April 1924 @ 3 Boyndie Street, Banff.
Charles and Hilda had seven children there is two still alive and living in Australia....my two children are the Great Grand children off Charles and Hilda.

So I really appreciate all your help, can I ask if any off you are related to this family?
Any other information on any one in this line would be greatly accepted.
This is me at the moment with all this information Ha Ha

My many thanks again
Isabel, Australia.

[runningbear]

hi pal,

wonder if your margaret west was the daughter of william and elizabeth forbes?

margaret was born 6/8/1847 gardenstown, gamrie, banff

her parents, william and elizabeth were married in gamrie 22/1/1842.

1851 census- gardenstown, gamrie

william...age 29...fisherman...born gardenstown c1822
elizabeth...age 27...born aberlour, aberdeen c 1823
elspet...age 8...born 10/3/1843
william...age 5...born 23/4/1845
margaret..age 3
forbes...age 1...born 2/4/1850

1861 census- seatown gamrie (seems that the men are all away at sea)

elizabeth...age 37
margaret...age 12
forbes...age 11
elizabeth..age 2 (middle name forbes)...born 19/5/1858

1871 census- 19 seatown, gamrie

william...age 49...fisherman
elizabeth..age 48
margaret...age 23
forbes...age 21...fisherman
james...age 15...born 15/9/1855 (must get his birth cert!!!)
elizabeth...age 12
mary...age 10...born 3/4/1861
charles...age 8...born 19/12/1863
benjamin...age 8 months...born 28/7/1870

1881 census- gamrie

william...age 58...fisherman
elizabeth...age 57
james...age 24...cooper (journeyman)
elizabeth...age 21
charles...age 16...fisherman
benjamin...age 10

1891 census- 13 shore street

william..age 69...fisherman
elizabeth...age 68
mary...age 27...domestic duties
benjamin...age 20...fisherman


Joe

[runningbear]

hi pal,

looks like your eliza maggie sim lemmon was the daughter of john and mary sim.

john and mary married 27/6/1870 banff.

wonder if your john was the son of john and ann mearns born 20/9/1846?

and mary was the daughter of james and isabella allardice?

1881 census- 16 bridge street, banff

john...age 33...bird stuffer
mary...age 32
mary isabella...age 9..born 1/11/1871
john henry...age 7...born 10/12/1873
eliza maggie...age 5
jessie l...age 2
mackie m...age 10 months

1891 census- 16 bridge street, banff

john...age 47...taxidermist
mary...age 41
mary isabella...age 19...dressmaker
john h...age 17...apprentice engineer mechanic
eliza m.s...age 15
jessie l.e...age 13
mackie m...age 10
james s...age 7
fitzpatrick h....age 5
isabella g.a.m....age 3
elizabeth...age 1


1901 census- 40 bridge street, banff

john...age 50...taxidermist
mary...age 49
leonard...age 21...bootmaker's bookkeeper
mackie ...age 19...apprentice booker
james...age 17...apprentice iron moulder
fitzpatrick...age 15
isabella...age 12
elizabeth..age 10
john d ironside...age 3...grandson

Joe

[Blandy]

Hi Joe,
I have a copy of an article in a Banff newspaper in 1932 that states that: "brothers of Mrs C W Lyall Sen, (this is Margaret West) ex- Provost West and Mr C.I West uncles of Mr C W Lyall Sen" does this fit with any of your information on this family.

 thanks for all your help
Isabel, Australia.