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Ellen SAGER 1841 census look up
« on: Tuesday 04 December 07 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm having problems trying to find a suitable Ellen SAGER/SAGAR on the 1841 Census.  She was born about 1827 in Cliviger although I do not know any parents etc yet.

Ellen marries a Robert TOWLER in 1849 and they had two daughters that I can so far establish, Alice 1850 and Elizabeth 1859.

Hope someone can offer a solution.

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Doggy
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Re: Ellen SAGER 1841 census look up
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Doggy

Could this be Your Ellen Transcribed as Luger on the 1841 Census..Image Shows it as Sager

Lowerstown Ford Whalley Burnley Lancashire

Lawens/Lawerence? Sager 60 Ag Lab  born of County Yes
William Sager 20 Police Inspector born of county Yes
Ellen Sager 15 Cotton Weaver born of county Yes

HO107 Piece 508 Folio 41 Page 11


Genuki Give the Parish of Cliviger in the Parish of Burnley ..

Hope this helps in some way

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Re: Ellen SAGER 1841 census look up
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Doggy

Could this be Ellen trancsciped as Luger on the 1841 Census

Lowers town Ford Whalley Burnley Lancashire

Law'es Sager 60 Ag Lab born of county Yes  ( Could be Lawrence)
William Sager 20 Police Inspecter bor of county Yes
Ellen Sager 15 Cotton Weaver bornof county Yes

HO107 Piece 508 Folio 41 Page 11


Genuki has Cliviger in the Parish of Burnley Lancs

Hope this helps in some way

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Iria
Harold Liverpool and Warwickshire
Slater Liverpool
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Lister/Lester Liverpool and Cambridgeshire
Norris Liverpool and Ireland


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Re: Ellen SAGER 1841 census look up
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Iria

This looks very promising as her future husband Robert TOWLER was also living in Whalley in the 1841 census
HO 107/ 506/22/41.

The Police Inspector seems to be an interesting lead?

Many thanks for your help

Cheers
Doggy
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Re: Ellen SAGER 1841 census look up
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

The address on the 1841 for Ellen Luger/Sagar is actually Lowerhouse Fold, Habergham Eaves.  Which places her nearly in Padiham :'(  However, she is still a possible.

Robert Towler was living at Brunshaw, Burnley (civil parish of Whalley, but not the town Whalley) on the 1841.  He and Ellen were also living there on the 1851 census next door to his parents. 

As they married at St. John`s Cliviger I would have expected her to be living around the same area.

The 1841 images for part of Cliviger are quite faint so it`s possible she may have been missed or really badly transcribed!!   ::)

Regards,
Mo
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Re: Ellen SAGER 1841 census look up
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Yes, our well known census website has missed loads off for Cliviger.  On some pages where there should be 25 names there are only 5 or 6 actually transcribed!!

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Mo
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Re: Ellen SAGER 1841 census look up
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Oh Dear!  Why does this always seem to happen to me.  I've had the same problem in Ruabon, Denbighshire where that same well known census website has missed off the complete town >:(

Thanks for checking anyway.

Cheers

Doggy
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Re: Ellen SAGER 1841 census look up
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Doggy,

I did have a trawl through the actual images which are there but I still can`t spot her.  Perhaps if you get the marriage certificate it would hopefully give her fathers name and occupation which could help.  Unfortunately Sagar is a very popular name in these parts. 

Sorry,
Mo
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Re: Ellen SAGER 1841 census look up
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 October 22 04:27 BST (UK) »
I'm a SAGER by birth, but my name when registered was accidentally written as SAGAR, so that's what's on my birth certificate. If that could happen in the 1960s, I expect it often happened in the preceding centuries.