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Re: Was there a baby??
« Reply #18 on: Friday 30 May 25 18:57 BST (UK) »
Yes, I thought so. I have managed to find them in the 1911 Census. Sorry for the format, the attachment option is not working for me atm

Surname
Forename
Year
Gender
Age at Census
Ref
RD Name
County / City

ROBERTS
JOHN
1911
M
58
266/8/8
Nigg
Kincardine
ROBERTS
MARY
1911
F
55
266/8/8
Nigg
Kincardine
ROBERTS
ISABELLA
1911
F
26
266/8/8
Nigg
Kincardine
ROBERTS
MORY ANN (sic)
1911
F
266/8/8
Nigg
Kincardine

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« Reply #19 on: Friday 30 May 25 18:58 BST (UK) »
1921.


Surname   Forename   Year   Gender   Age at Census   Ref   RD Name   County / City   
ROBERTS
ISABELLA M
1921
F
37
266/ 6/ 8
Nigg
Kincardine

ROBERTS
JOHN
1921
M
69
266/ 6/ 8
Nigg
Kincardine

ROBERTS
KATHLEEN E
1921
F
34
266/ 6/ 8
Nigg
Kincardine

ROBERTS
MARY
1921
F
63
266/ 6/ 8
Nigg
Kincardine

   
SHERIFF
MARY
1921
F
21
266/ 6/ 8
Nigg
Kincardine
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Re: Was there a baby??
« Reply #20 on: Friday 30 May 25 19:03 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann was the only SHERIFF in the household so no child.


Frank (Francis Archibald) Roberts had already emigrated to the US (5 Feb 1921).

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C955-P7CS-M?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJ623-G3B&action=view&cc=1368704&lang=en&groupId=
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Re: Was there a baby??
« Reply #21 on: Friday 30 May 25 22:45 BST (UK) »
We know Stanley in 30 June 1921 had the daughter in Australia, so perhaps that's why she doesn't appear in the Roberts household whenever the census was taken (post-Feb) in 1921.


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Re: Was there a baby??
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 31 May 25 00:23 BST (UK) »
Yes, but not necessarily, given that he didn't have to 'produce' his daughter at the time of the application.

According to his military records, he had enlisted under the name "William", assumed his real name 5 July 1918, married 11 or 12 December (2 different marriage extracts), embarked to Australia 1 July 1919 and disembarked at Melbourne 20 August 1919.

He couldn't have a daughter born in October 1919 unless she was conceived abroad, ie Scotland or England, or adopted in Oz.

His marriage certificate was 'extracted' by the Australian Imperial Force HQ in London 4 Feb 1919. Interesting timing.
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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 31 May 25 02:06 BST (UK) »
The Horsham Times (Vic. : 1882 - 1954)

Tue 17 Jun 1924  

Page 5

Obituary
One of the pioneers of Nurcoung,
Mr. James Sheriff, died on June 6.
He was a native of Dundee, Scotland,
and left home at 15 to join the sailing
ship Eagletine at Liverpool, on which
he served his time, later joining the
Vernhulm to come to Australia. He
was married at Mt. Gambier and he
and his wife were among the first
settlers at Nurcoung. His descend-
ants number four sons, four daughters,
seventeen grandchildren and one
great grandchild. He was 77 years of
age. The interment took place in Go-
roke Cemetery, the pall-bearers being
Messrs. T. and J. Fuller, J. Wright, F.
Maybery, H. C. Knight and R. Mewett.
The Rev. M. Hopper officiated at the
graveside.

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James' daughters and offspring alive on 17 June 1924:

1d.Jessie Brooksby (1gs.Joseph and daughter 1ggd.Marie Joan, 2gd.Ellen, 3gs.Albion, 4gs.William, 5gs.Malcolm, 6gd.Laura)

2d.Christina Jane Redford

3d.Martha Ellen Redford (7gs.Henry, 8gs.William, 9gd.Sarah, 10gd.Christina, 11gd.Winifred, 12gd.Jessie)

4d.Lillian Shemeld (13gd.Thelma, 14gd.Mary)

James' sons and offspring alive on 17 June 1924:

1s.Charles

2s.Andrew Thomas

3s.William Alexander (15gs.Laurel, 16gs.John, 17gs.Clarence)

4s.David Robert

(James died 1903)

What about Stanley??
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Re: Was there a baby??
« Reply #24 on: Friday 20 June 25 18:05 BST (UK) »
Since Stanley himself was raised by other family members other than his mother, I wonder if Stanley's child ended up being raised by Jessie or one of the other siblings when they're raising their kids. I thought maybe she could appear as an extra in a household in an Australia Census Record. I'm having a harder time finding those records, though.