Walter Noble (1828)

[tulstig]

I have found Walter Noble on the 1861 and the 1871 censuses, born in Cuckfield around 1825, living in Westminster. On his marriage certificate (1854 in Westminster) his father is listed as William. However I can find neither hide nor hair of either of them on 1851, nor 1841 censuses. There is a noble family in Cuckfield at this time - the head being Charlotte a widow. Is it possible that William had died before the wedding, but isn't noted as so on the certificate? (i have found a death for a William Noble in 1840 in Cuckfield). BUt this still doesn't explain where Walter is in 1841/1851. 

Any help with this conundrum much appreciated as always, 

Mark

[toni*]

i amnot convinced  at this stage that Charlotte Noble does belong to you directly (maybe an aunt or something)
IN 1841 she is living in Cuckfield (Buttinghill) HO107 1111 5 3
Charlotte Noble 45 Farmer Y (born in county)
Horice Noble 15 y (this should be your Walter)
Sarah Noble 13 Y
Susan Noble 10 Y
Ambrose Noble 8 Y
Chas Noble 6 Y

[suzard]

Could this be Walter -image and transcription given as harvest hill Essex - but harvest Hill is in Sussex!

and he is in Westminster

image very difficult to read in parts so please bear with me!

1851
St James Westminster
address; Olive? (or Blue?) St
David L Attwell head 43 Carpenter Minidane? Herts
Harriett wife 43 Sandwich kent
Mary A daughter 19 Dressmaker St martins London
Frances daughter 17 Cloak maker St martins London
Jessie daughter 15 St Martins London
Edward nephew 18 Apprentice St james Westminster
William Brett Visitor 35 Servant paddington London
Robert Godard Visitor 17 Errnand Boy  Norfolk
WALTER NOBLE Vist 24 Porter  Harvest Hill Essex
(Walter transcribed as Visitor -but not sure that's what the image reads)
HO107 1484 134 55

I cannot find a Walter b harvest Hill in other census

Suz

[toni*]

now in 1851 i have found a Sarah Noble age 25  b. Cuckfield  living in a 'Severn' Household listed as cousin the head Thomas is a teacher of music and singing

6 Euston Place St Pancras Marylebone
HO107 1494 535 47

[tulstig]

HI toni*
Thanks for the input/  help.
Yes I found this one, then checked out Horice (Horace) on later censuses - on which his age vaires, but is nearer being born in 1823. So still a possibility?

Hi suzard,

hadn't seen that but could well be him. WIll check out the image. Still need to find him in 1841.
Cheers,
Mark

[toni*]

i saw that Suzard but was unsure

[suzard]

I had to think about it, but Harvest Hill is part of/very close to Cuckfield

and the Noble name was in that area in 1867

Kellys directory 1867 lists in Cuckfield

"Henry Alfred Noble, farmer, Harvest Hill"

so it seems it may be a possibility

Suz

[sillgen]

Harvest Hill is in Ansty - part of Cuckfield parish.  The big house there was lived in by the Best family in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
Henry A Noble is there in 1851 age 59 b Camberwell.  Farmer of 19 acres employing 2.His wife is Mary Ann.
Charlotte is also living in Ansty.
Horace and family are living in Harvest Hill Cottage.
Andrea

[sillgen]

Can't find Walter in 1841.  Henry and Mary Ann are together - no kids.  Charlotte is a farmer in Ansty with her brood.
I wonder if Walter was at school?
Andrea