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Re: Walter Noble (1828)
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Just looked at familysearch for a marriage for William Noble to Charlotte and there is a member submitted one which shows the two girls, Juliet and Sarah, born in Cuckfield as children of William and Charlotte Cawthorne.    Dates do not seem to match at all though so I should treat that with caution.
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Re: Walter Noble (1828)
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 25 September 08 21:15 BST (UK) »
hi all out there,this is a michael round here ref :walter noble he was my great grand father on my mom,s side . i have some good stuff about the nobles of cuckfield if any wants to get back to me ;D william and charlotte married in brighton 22nd july 1809 at st nicolas.william noble also in 1809 was allowed to hunt for game.i also know how his brother henry alfred came to farm there.get back soon ;)

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Re: Walter Noble (1828)
« Reply #20 on: Friday 26 September 08 08:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Michael and welcome to rootschat.    I am sure Tulstig will get back to you when he see this.    I would be very interested in your Cuckfield details too as I am involved with Cuckfield Museum and we like to have copies of local family trees as we get a lot of reserachers in.
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Re: Walter Noble (1828)
« Reply #21 on: Friday 26 September 08 09:27 BST (UK) »
Hi All again,

Not been on for a while (and not had notifications?!), apologies for not replying sooner.

Would love more info Michael, and yes - welcome to rootschat -for me the best and most helpful site for family hunting.  Any info on Walter and Charlotte would be most welcome.

Thanks,

Mark

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Re: Walter Noble (1828)
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 28 September 08 20:53 BST (UK) »
hi mark,sorry i took so long in getting back.as you know i am a relation of walter noble do you fit in the family tree any where?
any way i was looking at the records office for west sussex when i came across this collection,THE SERGISON ARCHIVES in it was this item.its called TITHES OF CROUCHFIELDS OR ROUGHFIELDS AT ANSTY CROSS.(THIS IS IN CUCKFIELD).
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CATALOGUE NO SERGISON MSS 2/14/1
TITLE     CONVEYANCE(LEASE AND RELEASE,LEASE MISSING)IN CONSIDERATION OF £60FROM(A)WILLIAM CLUTTON OF CUCKFIELD GENTLEMAN,TO (B)RICHARD NOBLE OF ST.NARY AT HILL,CITY OF LONDON,ESQUIRE,AND(C)SAMUAL LANCASTER OF ST MARY AT HILL,CITY OF LONDON,BRANDY MERCHANT.(TRUSTEE OF THE SAID RICHARD NOBLE)
DATE   23RD MARCH 1807
DESCRIPTION         TITHES OF CORN,GRAIN AND PULSE ARISING OUT OF THE FARM,LANDS AND HEREDITAMENTS CALLED CROUCHFIELDS OR ROUGHFIELDS AT ANSTY CROSSIN CUCKFIELDS(18A),IN OCCUPATION OF WILLIAM BROOKER,WHICH SAID FARM WAS CALLED FIELDS OR SHOULDERS AND WAS FORMERLY THE ESTATE OF SARAH,WIFE OF (A),AND NOW WAS THE ESTATE 0F(B),AND WHICH SAID TITHES WERE PART OF A PORTION OF TITHES CALLED THE CHURCH PORTION.
BY THIS DEED, THE SAID TITHES WERE CONVEYED BY (A) TO(B),AND HIS ASSIGNES,FOR THE TERMOF HIS NATURAL LIFE,AND AFTER THE DETERMINATION OF THAT ESTATE IN HIS LIFETIME,TO THE USE OF (C),AND HIS HEIRS,DURING THE NATURAL LIFE OF (B),IN TRUST FOR(B),AND HIS ASSIGNES ,AND THEREAFTER TO THE USE OF (B),HIS HEIRS AND ASSIGNES,FOREVER.
WITNESSES  SAMUAL  WALLER AND WILLIAM MORSEE.

I BELIVE RICHARD WAS EITHER THE FATHER OF WILLIAM AND HENRY ALFRED AS HE WAS A VERY WEALTHY PERSON AS TO HOLD LAND DOWN IN CUCKFIELD AND TO LIVE IN LONDON.BIT OF A SPECULATOR MAYBE AFTER HE DIED THE LAND WAS SPLIT BETWEEN WILLIAM AND ALFRED.AND HORACE IN THE END HAD THE LOT.BUT WALTER I BELIVE WAS BORN IN LONDON HE IS ONLY SAYING WHERE HE WAS ON THE CENSUSES OF 51 ,61 ,HE REMAINS A BIT OF A MYSTERY.BY THE WAY HIS SON EDWARD IS MY MOTHER,S FATHER.

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Re: Walter Noble (1828)
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 20:18 BST (UK) »
hi sillgen,michael here sentsome stuff to mark last night hope he recived it ok.this was about a henry walter noble who kept a pub on the portobello road in 1882.this guy came from cuckfield born 1858.the pubs name was  freemasons arms number 76 portobello rd.his wife was called ann aged 30.and they have 3 kids.this is listed post office directories of the time.
i have also got some more stuff to send to him and post for others.
in the 1836 polling lists for cuckfield only richard noble is able to vote as he is the landowner of harvest hill and ansty farms.so william and henry must have worked for him and not been the land owners.after william dies then charlotte is looking after ansty farm.richard had made the provision that if he died then the farms would remain in the family.when henry alfred dies in about 1874 then the farms are sold off.on 20th july 1874 the stock is sold in a sale then on the 24th of july the farms are sold.you can see this in national archives a2a type richard noble for a search.hope this helps but still no walter ???makes me want to cry catch you later

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Re: Walter Noble (1828)
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 20:51 BST (UK) »
Interesting stuff.  I will look into it.  Many thanks
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Re: Walter Noble (1828)
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 21:26 BST (UK) »
HI all,

Yes got the stuff Thanks. Have checked into Henry Walter he is the son on Horace Noble - all from Cuckfield. Also found Henry Alfred Noble (1796) farming at Harvest Hill, with Horace next door in 1816. Henry Alfred is William Noble's brother - William being Walter's dad, so HA = Walter's uncle - likewise still no sighting of him though!! Henry Alfred does have birthplace of Camberwell - so perhaps time to move saerch to london?!

Mark
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LEE(Kent),
DALE(Sussex),
ANDREWS (who knows?),
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LANDER (Cornwall),
BLENCOWE (Sussex)
GROUT (Surrey)


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Re: Walter Noble (1828)
« Reply #26 on: Monday 06 October 08 14:14 BST (UK) »
Just found this forum - very useful as Walter Noble is my great great great grandfather. I had discovered the William Nathaniel Noble/Charlotte Cawthorne marriage and various children - yet I too cannot find direct mention of them with Walter. Very frustrating!

In comment to the Sergison Catalogue find - there is a St Mary at Hill in the city of London EC3 area - could richard Noble have come from here?

I have a copy of Walter's death certificate if anyone is interested in the information therein?