NSW Parish?

[Neil Todd]

Hi your ancestral family must have moved north fairly quickly as there are several deaths attributed to your Edward and Marion as parents. One is in 1860 at Tabulum on the Bruxner highway (it would have been a coach road then) This a Charles, no birth registered so they must have brought him with them and your Henry died at Balina NSW east of Tabulam on the coast in 1933.
Edward died Grafton 1860 and Marion at Balina 1899.

Neil

[pmhermann]

That's right. Came to Australia 1836. Stayed in Sydney a few months then headed to Gloucester.
First born was Augustus Frederick b 1840 Gloucester, then Alfred Charles b Dec 1843. My line is through Henry Alexander.
They had a child who headed to NZ, where he married and raised a family.
Paul

[Billyblue]

The V reference in the early NSW registration numbers indicates church records rather than civil registration - so burials, christenings/baptisms rather than births and deaths. I'm not sure why the V but no doubt mentioned somewhere  Trish
 

V is for Volume.  Civil registration in NSW started 1856 - all the prior ones have V in their registration number.

Dawn M

[jadewing]

Hi Paul,

Welcome to roots chat! Do you have any information about marion's parents or where she was born?

Thanks too for the extrainfo Neil and Dawn 

Jane

[pmhermann]

Very elusive
Mary Ann's death cert. cites her father as Henry, but as hard as I've tried, I cannot confirm this from any other source. Richard Dewing and Eliz. Goss Herring always seemed a better fit, but again there is not enough evidence to convince me this is correct.
Mary Ann has been described as a pleasing, intelligent woman and was obviously well educated as she could read and write, play piano and schooled all her children.
It was convention that in those time , the children were named after parents and grandparents. Their children's names were:
Edward (decd)
Helen Marion b 1838/40
Frederick Augustus b 1840
William Henry b 1842
Charles Alfred b 1844
Henry Alexander b 1845

Not sure what you can conclude from this : supports the name Henry, but also I believe the children of Richard and Elizabeth had names of Frederick and Augustus.
I haven't progressed anything from here, so would always welcome more input.

Paul

[jadewing]

Richard and Elizabeth are my ancestors and I have found no evidence that Marion belonged to them. I have baptism dates for all the rest. Their sons Frederick and Henry also ended up in Australia.

PS:  neither she nor her children were mentioned in Richard's will (d 1852), or that of his mother Alice d1831.

[rod.jarman]

Better late than never. I have a baptism record for Mary Ann Dewing baptised 12 Jul 1810 Burnham Overy, Norfolk the daughter Richard Dewing and Elizabeth Herring. Why she was baptised in Burnham Overy is a mystery.

The marriage date on Edward Robin's death cert is 3 September 1836 - after they arrived though the place is England.

So speculating, could they have eloped or similar and that is why Mary Ann was not in Richard's will.

In relation to the Herring's there was another family of Herring's in Norwich that were very well to do. For example, there is another William Herring with birth and death dates very similar to our William Herring who was the Mayor of Norwich and Member of Parliament. I believe he was related the Thomas Herring, Archbishop of Canterbury from 1747 to 1757.

[emilypos]

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[rod.jarman]

Very elusive
Mary Ann's death cert. cites her father as Henry, but as hard as I've tried, I cannot confirm this from any other source. Richard Dewing and Eliz. Goss Herring always seemed a better fit, but again there is not enough evidence to convince me this is correct.

Found a possible clue. In 1831 at North Creake Richard Dewing, son of Richard Dewing and Elizabeth Goss Herring appears to marry his cousin Mary Elizabeth Dewing, daughter of William Dewing (Richard Snr's brother) and Mary Derisely. On the Bishop's Transcript (it looks like) Mary Ann Dewing is one of the witnesses. As yet can't find a Mary Ann on William's side.

Mary Ann has been described as a pleasing, intelligent woman and was obviously well educated as she could read and write, play piano and schooled all her children.
It was convention that in those time , the children were named after parents and grandparents. Their children's names were:
Edward (decd)
Helen Marion b 1838/40
Frederick Augustus b 1840
William Henry b 1842
Charles Alfred b 1844
Henry Alexander b 1845

Not sure what you can conclude from this : supports the name Henry, but also I believe the children of Richard and Elizabeth had names of Frederick and Augustus.
I haven't progressed anything from here, so would always welcome more input.

Paul

The names of the boys match the sons of Richard and Elizabeth exactly ... except for Richard.

BTW, does anyone know of a Mrs Norma Trewin of 11 Errard Street South, Ballarat. There is a request for info in Journal No. 2 of 1993 of the Norfolk FHS seeking the same information.

Not much progress has been made in 30 years