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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 3
« Reply #171 on: Monday 24 March 08 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Two more....

Straight along the path to back of the Church
Robert's Grave is the only one lying down on the left (here looking back the way you came in)

Incidentally Dave told me they have a congregation of 400+ here on a Sunday....  I told him we're lucky to get 30  :( 
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 3
« Reply #172 on: Monday 24 March 08 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi MissM and thanks for those - what an impressive church as well!

I am sure the stone will be able to be turned and laid flat, I was a little concerned about the upright (as in vertical ideas).  I am sure though that the stonemasons will take everything into consideration.

Really appreciate the photos :D

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 3
« Reply #173 on: Monday 24 March 08 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much Lynne for taking the trouble on our behalf to go to ST Peters today and get the photographs of the church

If anyone wants to see the gravestone photographs who have not read through all of the threads then they can be viewed on thread 2 page 26 and the inscription from the book of burials on page 27 and on page 28 Graham tells us the stone is in very good condition.

As Michel is out of touch with us for the moment and many of us have been working solidly in the background for months to have the stone repaired then I think we should all have a say about it not only Annie who began the thread but all the contributers too.

For anyone who has not read the thread through from the beginning and wishes to do so then here are the links

Topic: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,206958.0.html
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Topic: Robert William STEAD (1896 West Derby -1926 Gateacre)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,261805.0.html
which is a summary of the 44 pages here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,206958.0.html
 
 
« Last Edit: Monday 15 October 07 16:02 BST (UK) by Berlin-Bob » 
 
I for one have written to the British Legion and theWar Graves Commission in order to have the stone repaired and the reply is also in the thread as well as other ways and means done in the background so as not to make this thread longer than it is

I hope my words offend no one as it is not my intention to do so but we are all working towards the same aim.

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 3
« Reply #174 on: Monday 24 March 08 14:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Edna

No offense was intended on my part either - this whole project has been an absolutely amazing piece of teamwork by all of you and I in no way meant to single out some above others.

I have indeed read the whole thread and can only add my congratulations to anyone who has played their part in this, big or small for the way you have all pulled together. 

I know that Rootschatters find a way to achieve - Bless you all.

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 3
« Reply #175 on: Monday 24 March 08 15:25 GMT (UK) »

Hi Everybody !

Here are my thoughts !

I would love for Rootschatters to see to Robert's grave ... and maybe add some plantings !
I believe that as Robert came from a lowly background he would be embarrassed at all the attention .... and I'd hate to think that we would embarrass him ......

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- Randolph Harrison McKim

If anybody else did decide they wanted to help - maybe the suggestion of other neglected graves in the graveyard could be a project they could get involved in .... St Peters could be the best graveyard in town !! :)

Thought you may be interested in this !!

http://www.cwgc.org/admin/files/Border%20planting%20and%20design.pdf

Annie  :)

Lynne the photos are great ... thanks to you and Tegan !!  :D
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 3
« Reply #176 on: Monday 24 March 08 15:46 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the photos, MissM. Having seen it, side by side with other graves, I can only say....It's big, isn't it.....
Bartlett/Henley on Thames
Caponhurst/Buckinghamshire and?
Denchfield/North Marston/Bucks
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 3
« Reply #177 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:30 GMT (UK) »

If anybody else did decide they wanted to help - maybe the suggestion of other neglected graves in the graveyard could be a project they could get involved in .... St Peters could be the best graveyard in town !! :)
Annie  :)

Lynne the photos are great ... thanks to you and Tegan !!  :D

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Hi Annie

I'm glad you liked the photos - it was very sunny here but FREEZING cold!  Poor Tegan was shivering!

The Church grounds are extremely well kept and have lovely winter flowers all around!  The graves are packed in surprisingly tightly and all have edging stones around them which are starting to tip and sink on a few which is a shame.  However, all the graves in St Peter's are owned by the family who put them there and they are also responsible for them.  There aren't many that have fallen though so Robert's is unusual in that way.  There are others that are deliberately flat so his wouldn't be the only one if that's what we do.

The section Robert's grave is in is mainly graves that are still tended by relatives but the other section is so old that no one is around to tend them.  The few I looked at were from the early 1800's but I think they probably go back before that.  Despite this they are in pretty good condition considering their age.  As I say, a few are sinking slightly, some wearing away a little,  and the edging stones are a bit uneven but all in all, the graveyard is pretty well looked after compared to some I've been in!  (That makes me sound weird doesn't it?  Oh no it doesn't  ::) - I'm in Rootschat - we all grave hunt in here!)

Graham would probably be best placed to advise us if we can help and of any parts we could help with if we have the funds and people wanted it to be done.  I know in my Churchyard some of the writing is starting to fade on the stones but we have no money to have them recarved or painted and it is hard to trace relatives of the older ones.  I have photographed them all instead and recorded what they say. If necessary, Graham could advise us of that type of work if necessary.  Has anyone heard from him lately?

At the moment we don't have enough funds to put the stone up anyway so I guess this is all speculation but I just thought I'd let you know what St Peter's was like for future reference!

If anyone wants to know where we're up to, please feel free to pm me! 

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 3
« Reply #178 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:41 GMT (UK) »
Miss M

The pics are really good.  ;D

I think the stone looks fine to turn over horizontally and with the donations you have to date, we may well be able to do that.

But we're talking hundreds of pounds aren't we to make it vertical again?  It looks sturdy enough to take it from the laymans point of view - its just whether we could raise the massive amount it needs to be safe and vertical/upright again.

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 3
« Reply #179 on: Monday 24 March 08 19:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mair

Glad you liked the photos!

I'm sending you a pm about how much we have so far....  :)

Lynne
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