Nutbeam- Anglis - Clements

[illustrator]

Has anyone got any information on John Nutbeam born Winchester (New Tivet?), Hants 1850 or his wife Sarah Anglis, born New Alresford, Hants 1852. Or any other information on both surnames.
Any information on Henry Edward Clements born Ratcliff Stepney London 1884. Joined Royal Field Artillery 150th battery in 1903 served WW1 wife Hypatia Glass born Portsmouth 1894. Father was Henry Clements 1852-86 Lighterman on the Thames, wife Anne Rebecca Copas born 1856. Henry's father was a Soldier called James Clements of which I know absolutely nothing (his name and profession is given on a marriage certificate 1n 1878) anyone got any ideas how to find anything on James

[dragon266]

Haven't got any information about a James clements but clements is maiden name of my mother in law her father a Charlie Clements recently passed away left me a list of his parents as a Henry Edward Clements and Ibachia Elizabeth Frances Glass this has been given to me second hand so could be a mis spelling as unusual name. also 10 children.If so can you please give me any details.

[heywood]

Hello there - not sure if you have your dates wrong or I am misinterpreting your info but 1891 shows Henry snr alive and well - you have him dying 1886 - I think 

In case you don't have the info..

1891 RG12; Piece: 401; Folio 129; Page 21

2 Cavendish Retreat Lambeth

Henry Clements 39 yrs Lighterman b Lambeth
Annie R 33 yrs b Newington
Rosina A 11 yrs b S George E
George H 8 yrs  b -do-
Henry E 6 yrs b Ratcliff E
Albert V 4 yrs  b -do-
Clara A 4 months b Lambeth

best wishes
heywood

[heywood]

think this is Henry in 1871

1871 RG10; Piece: 819; Folio: 125; Page: 20

Aldershot District Army Service Corps

Henry Clements 21 yrs Private A S Corps born Lambeth

[dragon266]

Hi Heywood
Thanks for Info I never mentioned dates noticed post by illustrator as a possible family link was my wife granddad that passed away 2005. Was just recently given info from family member and hadn't started to trace yet as info was transcribed right as only from grandads memory. Thought to much coincede to have Henry Edwards married to Ibachia Glass name differnet to illustrator above. Also have a reference to a n unnamed child killed in Arundel Street Portsmouth killed by horse and cart but don't know how to research as no dates.

[dragon266]

Think the Henry you have found is Henry's father as dates and children don't fit have
Father Henry Edward Clement
Mother Ibachia Elizabeth Frances Clements
Children
unnamed child died horse cart accident
Elsie
Ernest
Roy
Leslie
Peggie
George
Dennie
Girl died young name not recorded
charlie (my grandfather)
No dates given Charlie born 1925

[heywood]

I meant the post for illustrator:
This is  the bit I meant:

Father was Henry Clements 1852-86 Lighterman on the Thames, wife Anne Rebecca Copas born 1856. Henry's father was a Soldier called James Clements of which I know absolutely nothing (his name and profession is given on a marriage certificate 1n 1878) anyone got any ideas how to find anything on James

 
The Henry I found is this one above but you have him dead by 1886 and he is alive in 1891 census - that was all.

[dragon266]

Mis read post sorry 

[heywood]

no worries 

Hello dragon 266,
you did right to post as you do have the same family.
Free BMD has the marriage reference :
September 1910 St Thomas vol 5b pg 97
Henry E Clements and Hypatia E F Glass.

The spelling in the notes is understandable - unusual name.
Free BMD also has births for the family - the first one being Leonard H b 1911, Portsmouth.
There is a death for a Leonard Clements 3 yrs in 1915 Portsmouth - possibility for your child killed by horse