1891/1901 census look-up - RIMMER

[CaroleW]

Hi Sue

I have looked under Lew** and For** and also at all Formby's in the Southport and surrounding areas but no luck.  I wonder was he a mariner for a while?

Can I suggest you post a new message asking for an LRO lookup for his marriage to see if there are any clues on the cert (quote the story above and there will be no shortage of volunteers)

[suemuffy]

Hi Carole,
Thanks for trying to find him. I've just found him on the 1881 census as LOUIS Formby, widower living as an indoor servant on a farm in Liverpool Rd, Formby. I thought it sad that he was on his own but I've found Thomas' parents a couple of doors away and a couple more away, Thomas and Margery with baby daughter and her sister Margaret and daughter. Looks as though they all work on that farm or nearby.
Where is it best to post the request and what is LRO?

[suemuffy]

 Sorry, didn't know he had gone to sea.
He died in 1898 aged 75, it says, not bad when he had such a rough start!

[CaroleW]

Hi Sue

LRO is Liverpool Records Office and (I hope)  they have the marriages for St James on microfilm so it's like buying the marriage cert without paying for it

You can post on this board but be sure to also include that the marriage took place in the June quarter as it helps narrow down the search

It was just a thought that he may have gone to sea pre-marriage as I couldn't find him on the 1841.  I don't know for sure that he did as he was an agricultural labourer on all other censuses

[CaroleW]

Deaths - Lewis Formby aged 75 Sept qtr   1898
District: Ormskirk Volume: 8b Page: 593

[CaroleW]

1891 census for Lydiate

Richard Rimmer 36  ag lab
Mary Rimmer 34 
Margery M Rimmer 10 
Elizabeth Rimmer 4 
Esther E Rimmer 6 
James Rimmer 1  b Lydiate
Lewis Formby 69  father in law
Margaret Gill 72 widow - lodger

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1879

RIMMER Richard FORMBY Mary Walton, St. Mary Liverpool 2012WD/11/33

[suemuffy]

Hi again Carole,

I will see if I can go and check myself in the next week or so.
Thanks for all your help!

Sue

[CaroleW]

Hi Sue

I thought if I found Margery on the 1841, I may find Lewis in the same vicinity - I can't!!

I found Margery aged 20 working as an agricultural labourer in Ainsdale with 2 year old Peter and 2 MONTH old John - god help her.  No sign of husband Thomas although IGI confirms Peter was their child

Further down on the same page is a Peter LLoyd aged 20 also an agric. lab.  Possibly her brother

JOHN SAWER  Christening:  30 OCT 1835   Formby   Father:  THOMAS SAWER    Mother:  MARGERY  (Presume this John died)

PETER SAWER  Christening:  18 AUG 1838   St Peter's Formby, 
Father:  THOMAS SAWER     Mother:  MARGERY 

[suemuffy]

Hi Carole,

Thanks for looking for Margery and Lewis, he is a real mystery.......

I went to the LRO yesterday. I found the marrriages of both their daughters Mary and Margery Formby in 1879 at St Mary's, Walton. Both grooms had the father James Rimmer so it is likely they were brothers.

I did manage to find the marriage of Lewis and Margery in St James, Toxteth (I wonder why they went all the way there from Formby?). Lewis' father was named as Thomas Formby, occupation - tailor, which rather threw me as I was expecting a different name. Either, coincidently, the family that took him in was named Formby or the vicar assumed that Thomas the tailor was his real father and therefore the same surname when in fact it was something else.

I have put a post on this morning to see if there is a Thomas Formby that matches in the 1841/51  census.

I was allowed to look through a list of shipwrecks off the Lancashire coast but there was no mention of an Italian ship. however there was a schooner (so we are not talking fishing boat here) which floundered in Formby channel on 23/11/1821 but name, cargo and destination unknown, suggesting no survivors. It's the right time scale but I may be jumping to conclusions.

Will keep on looking, any ideas let me know!

Regards
Sue