Author Topic: Halpin family of Wicklow - Part 1  (Read 157109 times)

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Re: Halpin family of Wicklow
« Reply #126 on: Sunday 28 June 09 15:25 BST (UK) »
O.S. Map sheet xxv 77  2 (1895) showing Leitrim place other side of the river, Bachelor's Walk; Bridge Street, with The Bridge Hotel on the corner no 6.  I think I referred to no 7 & 8 Church Street, from G.P.V; and Sea View House, on Church Hill, just in the picture on bottom of the map, on Church Hill. The "Smoothing Iron" local name for the triangler plot in Fitzwilliam's square, where Halpin's memorial is situated, just facing what was once the Green Tree Hotel. Hope I have mastered this attachment thing at last! Have to send it in 2 lots.
Julia
Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow.
Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow.
Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow.
Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.

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Re: Halpin family of Wicklow
« Reply #127 on: Sunday 28 June 09 15:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Julia!  Great stuff ! Thank you !  I'm sure Raymond and Bill will also much appreciate. Kind regards Kim.

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Re: Halpin family of Wicklow
« Reply #128 on: Sunday 28 June 09 15:47 BST (UK) »
Hi, Found this example of John Edmund Halpin's work as a miniaturist artist. Kind regards Kim.

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Re: Halpin family of Wicklow
« Reply #129 on: Monday 29 June 09 09:39 BST (UK) »
Kim, Julia - thank you very much for your work...I have so much information before me now I don't know where to begin.  I've been busy with a new and very rich vein of research which I hope to post some time in the next month, and I was taking a bit of a breather too - to try to absorb what has been posted by both of you, and by Bill and Diane and Leah (in a private email which I'm sure she won't mind me sharing with everyone).  I have to pull my finger out smartly and get back to Mr. Cooke - to tell you the truth I not only took time out to absorb all of the new stuff here, but to relax a little in this brilliant weather we've been having and to recuperate, recharge the batteries as they say...I will begin posting again over the next few days, concentrating on the confusion over John Halpin, Paget, and Patrick - on the revolutionary activities of William, James, Thomas(perhaps) and others in 1798 and shortly thereafter - on the overlapping lives of 4 brothers (Nicholas John, William Henry, Charles and Frederick) - on the period in Wicklow between the embarrassing case of Edwin, the Concert that never came off, and the commission of inquiry into corruption in Wicklow that took place a few years later - and a little more on my own direct line of the Halpin family that extends from Edwin's Wicklow departure to the activities and deaths of his wife and children.
     So I'll be busy.  I estimate that it should take me a little over a month - after that I'll have nothing more to say.  Cheers, Ray.


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Re: Halpin family of Wicklow
« Reply #130 on: Monday 29 June 09 16:21 BST (UK) »
To Moerator,

Thank you for your messages. Sorry re. articles posted yesterday 27th. I will try not to repeat again.
Julia
Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow.
Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow.
Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow.
Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.

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Re: Halpin family of Wicklow
« Reply #131 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 00:14 BST (UK) »
Who are these IDA HALPIN s?  Are the first two the same person?  Is anything known of GEORGE HALPIN of Ashford, married to ELIZA BRADLEY?


(1) IDA ISABELLA HALPIN, birth 20 JAN 1865 1049 Ashford, Wicklow, Ireland

Parents:
   Father:   GEORGE HALPIN
   Mother:   ELIZA BRADLY

[Source IGI, Batch C701257.  I have found that the marriage of George and Eliza Bradl(e)y took place in 1859 in the Naas registration district of Kildare or Wicklow.]


(2) “Interestingly the last lady to hold a debenture was Miss Ida Isabella Halpin, a founder member, who died while still a debenture holder in 1961 at the age of 96.” 
[From an article on Wicklow Golf Club, Independent.ie, By Colm Smith, Monday May 31 2004.  (My underlining)]



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Re: Halpin family of Wicklow
« Reply #132 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 01:13 BST (UK) »
Further to my previous post on Ida Isabella Halpin, I submitted too early because I have answered part of my own question.  Apologies.

There was submitted earlier by JM Flannery from the 1901 Census the following:

Census of 1901 Wicklow Town b1 Wentworth Place 62/63. Private Dwelling with 2 out offices = 1 stabe & 1 coach house. All 3 persons were Church of Ireland and could read & Write.

1 Eliza Halpin, head of household, age 70 yrs [bc 1831] Occ = Income from House property, Widow,  born Co Carlow.
2 Ida I Halpin, daughter age 36 yrs [bc 1863] Assistant Registrar, single born Wicklow
3 Mary Jane Maxwell, servant age 25 yrs General Domestic Servant, single Born Co Wicklow
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Census of 1901 Wicklow Town b2 Wentworth Place 62/63. Private Dwelling with 3 out offices,  stabe, coach house & store. 4 Family members  were C of I.
1 James Henry Halpin, head of house,could R & W. age 40 yrs, Physician & Surgeon DK & GC.PLMCSI. married born Wicklow
2 Adelaide Maude wife, could R & W 29 yrs old. born Wexford

So, Eliza was the wife of Dr George Halbert Halpin and Ida Isabella was their middle child.  What I had not known was that Eliza's maiden name was Bradley.  They were living next door to Ida's brother, Dr James Henry Halpin.

While mentioning these families and JM Flannery, Julia's recent submissions included a 1994 photo of 92 year old Louise Kent, great niece of Captain Halpin.  Her mother would have been Georgina Halpin who married Robert John Kent of Claremont Villa, miller.  Georgina was the younger sister of Dr James Henry Halpin and Ida Isabella Halpin, children of Dr George Halbert Halpin, brother of the Captain.

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Re: Halpin family of Wicklow
« Reply #133 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 10:45 BST (UK) »
Yet further, and I trust finally for now, on the family of the above Ida Isabella Halpin, it appears that she was a twin with Georgina Anna Halpin, born Ashford, Wicklow on 20 JAN 1865 [Source IGI].

Georgina married on 31 DEC 1889 Robert John Kent of Claremont Villa, Miller, son of George Kent, Merchant.

Bill

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Re: Halpin family of Wicklow
« Reply #134 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:06 BST (UK) »
I'm looking forward to Ray's reply to my earlier query. Meanwhile I'm sending my latest efforts about the Halpens of Maryborough.
Wilson's Dir. 1801 Dublin:
Halpen, John, Bookseller & Stationer, 19 Sackville Street
Halpin, Paget, Engraver, 32 Mecklenburgh Street
Printers & Engravers Dublin 1784-1811:
Halpen John, bookseller & stationer
Halpin Paget, engraver, Mecklenburg St.

In Oxf.Dict.Nat.Biography there are 2 Halpens & a Halpin(e)
Charles Graham Halpine, son of Rev Nich John Halpin.  DCarr gives a very good resumé of him (this forum, Page 8 )
Patrick Halpen, line engraver, fl. 1757-1786
John Edmond Halpen (?b.1764) miniature painter, son of Patrick & Eleanor

It seems that Patrick is John Edmund’s father. Is John Edmund the same as John, bookseller ? Why is John, bookseller & stationer, listed as a printer & engraver ? He must have been more than a bookseller.

Now, if Patrick was the only native (Irish) line engraver in Dublin 1778-1786 (ODNB), then why is he not listed as an engraver 1784-1811 ?
Could he be the same as Paget ? Was his full name Patrick Paget Halpen ?
If not, then there seems to be a link between the two Halpens, who were line engravers of Dublin. They must be related.

There are stacks of Pagets & Halpens in the Sweny and Cooke families, and
we know where these names come from. Mark Halpen married  Mary Paget, and that’s all we know about them.
Their daughter Elizabeth married Eugene Sweny in Maryborough in 1777. They lived in Dublin.
 
So, my conclusion is, that Patrick and John must be connected to Mark Halpen and Mary Paget of Maryborough.
Ken Cooke